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FinishingTouchA
12-30-2015, 11:09 AM
So I've got this Model S in today with major defects. We used Adapt on Meguiars Microfiber cutting pad with the Rupes 21 to remove the defects. Tried finishing with Rupes yellow and white with Essence and there's still micromarring left behind. Both pads finish exactly the same with Essence. Might try SF4000 next, any suggestions? I thought Essence would finish perfect after 6-8 passes with a white Rupes pad.

fly07sti
12-30-2015, 11:15 AM
Are you using the 21 with essence? Have read it doesn't really like the large orbit. Also, on the few cars I've used Essence on I've never done more than 4 passes.

EzyBrzy
12-30-2015, 11:17 AM
I also read that essence requires only few passes.

Billy Baldone
12-30-2015, 11:17 AM
What were you finishing with before Essence on Teslas. I've never had issues using 4000/4500 on them. I have held off on Essence because my Menzerna HD products work so well and I've already passed the learning curve part on those products.

Impressions
12-30-2015, 11:39 AM
I do 2-3 passes with Essence
Overworking the product will leave da haze which is actually dried up product that doesn't wipe off

FinishingTouchA
12-30-2015, 11:40 AM
Are you using the 21 with essence? Have read it doesn't really like the large orbit. Also, on the few cars I've used Essence on I've never done more than 4 passes.
Yeah, looks like I'll have to try the Flex.


What were you finishing with before Essence on Teslas. I've never had issues using 4000/4500 on them. I have held off on Essence because my Menzerna HD products work so well and I've already passed the learning curve part on those products.

This is my first Tesla, grabbing the 4000 bottle off my shelf now. I don't have 4500 so hopefully this does the trick.

Ray@Autogeek
12-30-2015, 11:49 AM
I'd try out BLACKFIRE SRC Finishing Polish. Jsmooth has polished a few Teslas and has had great results with it.

http://i1047.photobucket.com/albums/b479/gavsauto/Blue%20Finest%20Tesla/DSC_0267_zpszakkfgni.jpg

http://i1047.photobucket.com/albums/b479/gavsauto/Blue%20Finest%20Tesla/DSC_0245_zpsm6paqj6x.jpg

Source: Old Faithful Black Fire SRC Finishing Polish (http://www.autopia.org/forums/blackfirewax-com/181929-faithful-black-fire-src-finishing-polish.html#post2002504)

boomdone
12-30-2015, 11:54 AM
I'd try out BLACKFIRE SRC Finishing Polish. Jsmooth has polished a few Teslas and has had great results with it.

http://i1047.photobucket.com/albums/b479/gavsauto/Blue%20Finest%20Tesla/DSC_0267_zpszakkfgni.jpg

http://i1047.photobucket.com/albums/b479/gavsauto/Blue%20Finest%20Tesla/DSC_0245_zpsm6paqj6x.jpg

Source: Old Faithful Black Fire SRC Finishing Polish (http://www.autopia.org/forums/blackfirewax-com/181929-faithful-black-fire-src-finishing-polish.html#post2002504)

Yowza, that first pic is like :drool:

Matt@Revive
12-30-2015, 01:01 PM
So I've got this Model S in today with major defects. We used Adapt on Meguiars Microfiber cutting pad with the Rupes 21 to remove the defects. Tried finishing with Rupes yellow and white with Essence and there's still micromarring left behind. Both pads finish exactly the same with Essence. Might try SF4000 next, any suggestions? I thought Essence would finish perfect after 6-8 passes with a white Rupes pad.


i had the same issue when using Essence with a Rupes yellow pad on soft BMW black paint. i got it cleaned up with HD polish and a Rupes yellow pad. i just got my shipment of Rupes white pads to see if i get better results.

GSKR
12-30-2015, 01:55 PM
So I've got this Model S in today with major defects. We used Adapt on Meguiars Microfiber cutting pad with the Rupes 21 to remove the defects. Tried finishing with Rupes yellow and white with Essence and there's still micromarring left behind. Both pads finish exactly the same with Essence. Might try SF4000 next, any suggestions? I thought Essence would finish perfect after 6-8 passes with a white Rupes pad.
The white pad maybe to soft,is the essence giving you ample time to work in.If so the pad isn't breaking it down,essence has a short working time frame ,try a micro cutting pad doesn't make sense but seems to be the trick for some reason .Ive done 5 cars with cutting pad and that was it,gave me a flawless finish and I was using X-ray vision too look for hazing or marring.never worked on a tesla yet so I'm just throwing out my personal experiences with essence and pad combo.

GSKR
12-30-2015, 02:01 PM
I had the same promblem,I said this product sucks .Before throwing it in the garbage my friend rob who is a seasoned detailed showed me how to use it,now I'm addicted to it.

Jsmooth
12-30-2015, 02:11 PM
I'd try out BLACKFIRE SRC Finishing Polish. Jsmooth has polished a few Teslas and has had great results with it.

http://i1047.photobucket.com/albums/b479/gavsauto/Blue%20Finest%20Tesla/DSC_0267_zpszakkfgni.jpg

http://i1047.photobucket.com/albums/b479/gavsauto/Blue%20Finest%20Tesla/DSC_0245_zpsm6paqj6x.jpg

Source: Old Faithful Black Fire SRC Finishing Polish (http://www.autopia.org/forums/blackfirewax-com/181929-faithful-black-fire-src-finishing-polish.html#post2002504)
Thanks for the shout out Ray! TO the OP I've corrected and coated 800 tesla's and I was a tester for essence for 6 months pre release. So this will sound funny but use a microfiber finishing disc with essence and make a couple cross hatch sections and see what it looks like. If you still having trouble after that please call me I'm sure I can walk you through it and we can get it figured out! Thanks!

FinishingTouchA
12-30-2015, 02:15 PM
Now working with the 3401.. Tried pf2500 on a white pad (marring), 4000 on black pad (marring), 4000 on red pad (marring)...
This picture is FG400 on microfiber followed by pf2500 on white followed by sf4000 on red. This Tesla will be the end of me. http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/12/30/b530a9c1ed02a7038719a6faafded446.jpg

LC DETAIL
12-30-2015, 02:18 PM
Rotative at low SPEED!!!!

ronkh57
12-30-2015, 02:21 PM
I see Joe looking at thread. He will help.