What do you think? Beginning clear coat failure?

[Bryan@AzDPC.com]

What do you think? Is this the beginning of clear coat failure?

I just received this Vette for a complete correction. I'm sure it's clear coat failure and I'm going to turn down the job. But, I want to see if anyone disagrees.

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c299/boates/IMG_0767.jpg

[Audios S6]

I agree it looks like CC failure, but I disagree about turning down the job.

Client clearly wants a nice looking car, try to turn it to your advantage. Educate the client and give him some alternative options. Perhaps as follows.

1. Do everything but that panel, still some risk for you as other panels maybe failing soon.

2. Same as above but apply a coating to that panel. Corey's field testing showed CQ slowed the future failure.

3. Coat the whole thing to delay further failure

4. Advise a respray and do the work afterward.

[custmsprty]

I agree with OP, pass on it. Not worth the risk. Or get the customer to sign a waiver if any damage occurs. But I'd pass on it.

[Bryan@AzDPC.com]

Yea, I hear ya. But there's failure on every horizontal surface and at every gap. The customer wants to sell the car so I suspect he's just going to take the hit on the sale price and move on.

2006 Vette. So, it's not very old.

[Marc08EX]

Yes - that's the beginning of clear coat failure.

However, it's not like the paint is peeling. You can still correct that and make it go away (for the most part). But the paint will eventually peel off sooner or later. How do I know? I encountered a car with the exact same look.

[Audios S6]

Yea, I hear ya. But there's failure on every horizontal surface and at every gap. The customer wants to sell the car so I suspect he's just going to take the hit on the sale price and move on.

2006 Vette. So, it's not very old.

Well, a few bad assumptions on my part. If it's everywhere and he's selling, not worth your risk. Let someone else have it, it's not likely he'd be coming back with his new car anyway.

[ronkh57]

IMHO

Have him sign something that acknowledges the cc failure, then glaze and wax car. It'll look pretty good.



http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b395/ronkh/20130505_135306_zpsefed8a32.jpg


http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b395/ronkh/20130525_114518_zps3682767e.jpg


http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b395/ronkh/20130525_095654_zps6cefbaaf.jpg


http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b395/ronkh/20130525_095656_zpsf378b920.jpg


http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b395/ronkh/20130525_111351_zpsaf2130c0.jpg


http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b395/ronkh/20130525_113533_zps7a03713c.jpg

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b395/ronkh/20130525_115049_zpscb931ba2.jpg



That was black hole glaze first by machine, not wiped off, then Black Ice applied, then wiped

[ronkh57]

Here are better pics of the failure

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b395/ronkh/20130915_115041_zpsb8646092.jpg


with flash

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b395/ronkh/20130915_115022_zps5527699e.jpg

[Bryan@AzDPC.com]

Have him sign something that acknowledges the cc failure, then glaze and wax car. It'll look pretty good.

Because he's going to sell it, I'd feel like I committed a crime. Accessory to fraud. :laughing:

[FUNX650]

Because he's going to sell it,
I'd feel like I committed a crime.

Accessory to fraud. :laughing:
In some States' Courts:
that's not a laughing matter.


IMO:
Unless you're an "Auction-Detailer":
I'd say to leave this vehicle alone.


Bob

[heckhole]

I'd offer a glaze and wax for dark cars.

I recently ran into a car from a dealer headed to auction like this. The hood clear was checked bad, rest of the car was good. I warned them multiple times that as soon as polish hits it, they will absorb the polish and look 50x worse. They insisted I try before they settled to have it painted. I wiped some polish on in a small area on the hood and that ended the discussion.

Don't attempt any correcting on this car. If you aren't already squeezing this car in, or if you don't have a better job lined up, offer a glaze and wax. It's hard to turn away money when you don't have to turn on your machines or use expensive polish & compounds.