Blackfire Waterless Wash (new 1:48 formula) vs Meguiars D115

[The Critic]

I am thinking about trying waterless washes.

The two products I am looking at are Meguiars D115 and Blackfire Waterless Wash.

The "wax protection" is not of interest to me - but I do like a slick surface after cleaning. Which product is the better waterless wash -- my main goal is to find a product with the best lubricity and ease of use.

Thanks!

[FUNX650]

The two products I am looking at are
Meguiars D115 and Blackfire Waterless Wash

The "wax protection" is not of interest to me...
Then, instead, you need to look at Meguiar's D114.
Dilute it @1:128 for a WW.

That's 128 gallons of WW for $32.99...
~25¢ a gallon.

(And don't forget about AGO's Labor Day Sale.)



Bob

[Real Riders]

I agree with Bob. You will not find a more economical Waterless Wash than D114. Some RTU Waterless Wash products from other companies cost as much as $24 for a 32 ounce bottle. At 25 cents a gallon for D114, you can't go wrong

[silverfox]

D114...should be standard on every shelf.

[The Critic]

Then, instead, you need to look at Meguiar's D114.
Dilute it @1:128 for a WW.

That's 128 gallons of WW for $32.99...
~25¢ a gallon.

(And don't forget about AGO's Labor Day Sale.)



Bob
D114 doesn't say that it can be used for waterless, at least not according to the label.

[Real Riders]

If you watch the Meguiars video with Jason Rose and Mike Phillips , Jason uses D114 as Waterless Wash but he mixes it at 1:15. There are posts on Meguiars online that mention using D114 as Waterless Wash at 128:1

[silverfox]

D114 @1:15 is a great IPA alternative...and it can strip wax at that concentration. Its really powerful stuff. 1:128 is correct for waterless wash, label or not. I've used it with excellent results at 1:128.

[expdetailing]

What kind of lubricity do you get with d114 @ 1:128?

[FUNX650]

D114 doesn't say that it can be used for waterless, at least not according to the label.
I just hope that when the time comes that Meguiar's
doesn't pass on the entire costs of upgrading D114's
labels to their Customers. I've become quite fond of
its current price---especially here at AGO's store.

To continue:
In order to avoid any confusion you may have
in regards to D114's dilution ratio(s)...

Here's a more official presentation of some
of the most popular dilution ratios of D114...
and its varied usages, at those dilution ratios:

TO WIT:

Questions about D114 RFEW (http://www.meguiarsonline.com/forums/showthread.php?61569-Questions-about-D114-RFEW)
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Excerpt from the above thread:

Jul 1st, 2014, 07:32 AM
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Re: Questions about D114 RFEW

"We recommend using D114 as a rinseless
wash with a dilution ratio of 1 ounce to two
gallons of water. (1:256)

If you're going to use it as a waterless wash
you should at least double that ratio, 1 ounce
per gallon. (1:128).

As a clay lube, the standard dilution ratio (1:256)
works quite well".


Michael Stoops
Product & Training Specialist | Meguiar's Inc.
(800) 854-8073 xt 3875
mstoops@meguiars.com
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Hope this helps.


Bob

[FUNX650]

What kind of lubricity do you get with d114 @ 1:128?
I say it's the same lubricity, or more, as
ONR has at the same 1:128 dilution ratio. :xyxthumbs:


Bob

[MIsnowman]

I am thinking about trying waterless washes.

The two products I am looking at are Meguiars D115 and Blackfire Waterless Wash.

The "wax protection" is not of interest to me - but I do like a slick surface after cleaning. Which product is the better waterless wash -- my main goal is to find a product with the best lubricity and ease of use.

Thanks!

I did a review/comparison of these two products, or at least close derivatives of them, on here a little while back. I have a sample of the BlackFire Waterless wash and bought a bottle of Meg's Waterless Wash and Wax Anywhere. I think the BF I have is the premixed version of the one you're looking at and I know the Meg's WWAWA is the OTC version of D115. I found the BF easier to use and left a slicker finish while the Meg's seemed to have more cleaning ability. I've used both products on three washes and the results were similar each time. I think the BF acts more like a quick detailer while the Meg's is better as a wash. I haven't had any issues with scratching or marring the paint with either one, even on black.

[DRO220]

D114...should be standard on every shelf.

+1 This is the most versatile product I have ever owned, IPA alternative, ww, rw, interior cleaner, etc. I love the stuff, and for the price it can't be beat.

[pheerix]

I just bought a gallon of D115 over weekend. Excited to try it out. I have a half gallons of ONR and ONRWW so I don't have any need for D114 yet but when I run out I'll definitely give it a try.

[pheerix]

Did a quick hood and windshield wipe down with D115 and I am impressed! The slickness left behind is noticeably better than OptiClean and smells better too. Even streak free on glass. Opti clean streaks like crazy for me without a lot of buffing.

[FUNX650]

Did a quick hood and windshield wipe down with D115 and I am impressed! The slickness left behind is noticeably better than OptiClean and smells better too. Even streak free on glass.

With your regular use of D115...
(and the possible use of D156 when
between-wash-refreshing is called for):

Your use of traditional LSPs can now surely be
considered as being effectually discontinued? :)


Bob