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banzaitoyota
08-28-2015, 06:59 PM
UGH!!! I have tiny pits everywhere on my hood, 2013 Fiat ABARTH (the BURBLE) I did a test spot with 3000 Grit paper, folllowed by MEGS 205, then MEGS UCC and final CG V38. No visible difference. Pics to follow.,Feed back pleaseFeed back please

LSNAutoDetailing
08-28-2015, 07:34 PM
Is this a daily driver? Where do you live? Sand, small rocks, it happens.

My 10 yr old garage queen was the previous owners daily driver in New England.

After many compounds and getting rid of all the swirls, oxidation and layers of filler wax, I have a high gloss and pure clear-coat. With that, in the sun-light and see little spots. I have to be 1' away and use my nearsighted vision. Camera won't even get it unless I use a macro lens.

Showed it to two body guys and a fellow Detailer and all three said "live with it, you're being OCD"

At some point you need to decide on living with it or depletion of the depth of the clear coat.

Earth's surface and Mother Nature are pretty hard on our man-made toys. 😎

2011 302
08-28-2015, 08:59 PM
Sounds like a good case for the chip dr

banzaitoyota
08-28-2015, 09:21 PM
Nice day driver

LSNAutoDetailing
08-28-2015, 10:10 PM
Sounds like a good case for the chip dr

Ah, good point, they could be tiny rock chips. What I was mentioning above are just tiny pits.

If there are any in an inconspicuous area, he could try 1500 grit, then compound & polish. But it should be a very small test spot. I don't recall the name, but I watched a body guy use these little pads, about an 1" and had 1500 and 3000 grit pads on them, mainly for removing dust nibs.

Pic's would help...

banzaitoyota
08-28-2015, 10:14 PM
Pics as promised, taken under a t5 5K HO light fixture

LSNAutoDetailing
08-28-2015, 10:25 PM
Pics as promised, taken under a t5 5K HO light fixture


good pic's. Yup they're just as I thought, more like tiny pits or etchings.. It's probably some kind of sap etching or caused by sand particles.

Where do you live (don't need address, i.e. upstate NY, or Nevada...) This will tell a lot about environment and conditions. For example, here in the North East, we have a ton of Pine and Maple trees, thus sap... plus a lot of sand from sanders in the winter. All that sand spray in heavy traffic will cause that too.

It's common to see like this S550 I worked on. Under the Husky LED Lights, there was no denying it.
Even after full paint correction, there were still tiny pits in the paint:
http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j5/Mustang030308/Mobile%20Uploads/Merc%20S550/D3240B48-9857-4D80-B09F-845D25502557_zpsmfbcrnau.jpg (http://s76.photobucket.com/user/Mustang030308/media/Mobile%20Uploads/Merc%20S550/D3240B48-9857-4D80-B09F-845D25502557_zpsmfbcrnau.jpg.html)

Perhaps too far down for the 3000 & Compounding you've done.
Take some paint measurements... The only thing left to try is 1500 grit.... depends on how much clear and if you're willing to risk it.

You should get an opinion from a body shop before going to any deeper lengths such as 1500 grit.

These things can become like puzzles or problems that our brains won't let go of and will keep us up nights until we know how to fix them. That's why we're detailers. If you get to the bottom of it, please update the thread. We would like to know the outcome.

banzaitoyota
08-28-2015, 10:37 PM
I live in SC, lots of pine and oak trees, car is parked outside. My drive is 30 mles thru a 300 square mile nuclear reservation Savannah River Site. My driveway is a 1/2 long sand road. DANG BITE LIGHTS in my shop!!!!

The kick in the butt is I just did a test section on my neighbors 2006 Dodge ram, 266K on and the paint felt like 400 grit sandpaper, Iron-X, Nano Cloth, Megs 205, V38 and the freaking finish is flawless. FIAT Clear must be different than Dodge, even though both made in Mexico.

LSNAutoDetailing
08-29-2015, 06:12 AM
Yes all the conditions you mention would contribute.. Trees, sand, sap etc. Don't think the nuclear reservation tho... We'd have bigger issues. :)

Enamel paint shows everything. Your lights are what I call truth serum. I too use LED lights and the truth hurts. Turn them off and get some rest :)

You could have it resprayed, wait days and wrap it on Expel or 3m
Clear bra. The Expel is self healing, but $$$$$$

banzaitoyota
08-29-2015, 08:14 AM
The reservation reference was in regards to I have 24 miles to drive thru pine forest

Klasse Act
08-29-2015, 07:55 PM
Hope you get those issues knocked out ASAP!

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maxsmobile
09-01-2015, 10:27 AM
I have the same problem on my 2015 golf tdi black and 2014 cayman s, from what better detailers have told me it's acid fallout, body shop told me it's from a bad paint job from factory. I'll update more since the cayman is going in for an inspection at the dealer for warranty

SeanChav
09-01-2015, 10:56 AM
I have the same pitting on my hood on my 128k mile 90% highway DD in Arizona....I did a full 2 step correction a while back on it and got out pretty much all the swirls and a good chunk of scratches, BUT then the pitting stuck out like a sore thumb in bright led lighting or the sun.

It bugs me soo much but I know that's just the nature of the beast with a 85 mile a day work commute that's all highway....I guess it could be worse though

maxsmobile
09-26-2015, 11:32 AM
Well I finally have an update on the Cayman . Body shop said solvent pop, so factory defect

GSKR
09-26-2015, 12:40 PM
That is some industrial fallout that etched the paint.its notorious in the New England not so much in the south.I detailed a 14 Passat same issue just on fender and door the lady had sprayed her kids with sunscreen and overspray pitted those areas.