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VeloNYC
07-16-2015, 09:31 PM
Car is only 5 months old and since it is Mazda 3 2015 with horrible thin paint, micro swirls and minor scratches allover. My ride is street parked 24/7 and there is no access to outlet to get DA, even if I had access to outlet it would be risky to use it. So, I decided to go w/ glaze.

Let me describe steps:
1. I washed car along w/GG paint prep,
2. then clayed with NS sponge and Riccardo clay.
3. I used Meguaires hand applicator foam sponge to put PBWBH
4. I was itching regarding this step but pulled a trigger. I decided to seal it wit DG 105/601 with foam applicator
5. Few minutes later I put 915 to completely cocoon it to my satisfaction

Don't get me wrong a Red car turned into lollipop only thing missing is sugary smell. There is a disappointing part, I still can see micro swirls as before under certain light condition. On a top of that, we had torrential rain for an hour or two two a day after I worked on my car.

My question is since DG 105 sealant dedicated foam sponge picked up some purple dye did it remove PBWBH glaze? I read that DG105 has almost no cleaners.

How much this unusual for summer pouring rain can affect on sealant/wax over the glaze longevity?

Dogfather
07-16-2015, 10:16 PM
Car is only 5 months old and since it is Mazda 3 2015 with horrible thin paint, micro swirls and minor scratches allover. My ride is street parked 24/7 and there is no access to outlet to get DA, even if I had access to outlet it would be risky to use it. So, I decided to go w/ glaze.

Let me describe steps:
1. I washed car along w/GG paint prep,
2. then clayed with NS sponge and Riccardo clay.
3. I used Meguaires hand applicator foam sponge to put PBWBH
4. I was itching regarding this step but pulled a trigger. I decided to seal it wit DG 105/601 with foam applicator
5. Few minutes later I put 915 to completely cocoon it to my satisfaction

Don't get me wrong a Red car turned into lollipop only thing missing is sugary smell. There is a disappointing part, I still can see micro swirls as before under certain light condition. On a top of that, we had torrential rain for an hour or two two a day after I worked on my car.

My question is since DG 105 sealant dedicated foam sponge picked up some purple dye did it remove PBWBH glaze? I read that DG105 has almost no cleaners.

How much this unusual for summer pouring rain can affect on sealant/wax over the glaze longevity?

DG 105 is an AIO, so yes, the cleaners probably removed the BH. You should have skipped that step. Being out 24/7 probably doesn't lend itself well to a glaze. If you were to try again, I'd probably opt for a PB LSP as well. I once tried topping PBWD with DG111. It only lasted through a couple of rainstorms.
That being said, the 105/601 under 915 would probably work out fine. Just skip the glaze. Save it for your garage queen.

silverfox
07-17-2015, 05:07 AM
The 105 removed the glaze. It has cleaners in it. The glaze probably compromised the 105 as well. I'd start over. If you glaze, stay within the same family of products. Prima amigo / hydro max, CG ez creme/ jetseal are examples. Perhaps a PB combo would work. Another great combo is pinnacles' paint cleansing lotion/ pinnacle sealant.

willtothewong
07-17-2015, 09:45 AM
The 105 removed the glaze. It has cleaners in it. The glaze probably compromised the 105 as well. I'd start over. If you glaze, stay within the same family of products. Prima amigo / hydro max, CG ez creme/ jetseal are examples. Perhaps a PB combo would work. Another great combo is pinnacles' paint cleansing lotion/ pinnacle sealant.

I usually like to stick "within the family" regarding LSPs.

So if you were to do BlackHole again, perhaps top it with Nattys or something else from PoorBoys.

Nothing wrong with mixing and matching but keeping within the same manufacturer keeps "some" of the guess work out.

hollerstiltner
07-17-2015, 01:30 PM
Like others have said. The 105 probably removed the black hole. If you want to try your glaze again I'd top it with the 915 alone. That may be better as 915 shouldn't have cleaners.

I recall a post a while back from swanic that showed good durability of pbwbh under I believe menz PL. if I get time I may try to find it.

runrun411
07-17-2015, 02:57 PM
Don't waste your time sealing a glaze. The oils in the glaze will prohibit the sealant from bonding.

hollerstiltner
07-17-2015, 07:31 PM
I found it.

http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/product-reviews/60946-sealant-test-powerlock-blackhole-wolfgang-dgps-blackfire-wd.html

Larry A
07-17-2015, 08:43 PM
I did a black Ford Escape , and applied Black Hole followed with Collinite 476. It looked great and lasted all winter in Chicago.

VeloNYC
07-17-2015, 10:25 PM
I suspected it but few posts misled me a bit, not biggie

http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/ask-expert-featuring-mike-phillips/46054-glaze-duragloss-ttp.html

http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/product-reviews/31864-poorboys-white-diamond-black-hole-show-glaze.html#post406904

Shall I strip again everything with GG paint prep and clay bar/sponge and start all over?

If PBWBHG with 915 will last from August to December then I can do 105/601 with 845 to protect ride for 4 months during NYC winter nastiness.

Will Prima Hydro MAX bond to glaze?

Belair
07-18-2015, 08:54 AM
...Will Prima Hydro MAX bond to glaze?

Unlikely.