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sunday joe
06-21-2015, 10:17 AM
After washing my car twice with ONR, I discarded it onto the lawn. A week or so later the grass was greener, and taller at that spot. It surprised me. I think it must contain Phosphates. Phosphates are banned in fertilizer in Ontario. Looks like my lawn needs another feeding.

tpr1634
06-21-2015, 10:31 AM
Interesting......

Setec Astronomy
06-21-2015, 10:50 AM
I'm pretty sure there's no phosphates in ONR. The MSDS doesn't even show any hazardous ingredients, as opposed to Optimum Car Wash which has a couple of different sulfates in it.

conman1395
06-21-2015, 10:55 AM
Looks like I might try a "test spot".

jwgreen6
06-21-2015, 10:56 AM
Maybe it's the UV inhibitors in the ONR? Maybe you found a new use for ONR?

StuDLei
06-21-2015, 11:15 AM
Maybe it's the UV inhibitors in the ONR? Maybe you found a new use for ONR?

Last I checked, grass (and other plants) need sunlight to live, lol! Just teasing!

sunday joe
06-21-2015, 10:29 PM
I'm pretty sure there's no phosphates in ONR. The MSDS doesn't even show any hazardous ingredients, as opposed to Optimum Car Wash which has a couple of different sulfates in it.


I don't know what caused it. Just an observation on my part. ONR is cost prohibitive for use as fertilizer.

ZimRandy
06-22-2015, 07:18 AM
Maybe it was the water?

If you think it was the ONR, try one spot of plain water and one of your ONR mixture. I'd guess they would look similar.......

Dr. G
06-23-2015, 12:51 PM
After washing my car twice with ONR, I discarded it onto the lawn. A week or so later the grass was greener, and taller at that spot. It surprised me. I think it must contain Phosphates. Phosphates are banned in fertilizer in Ontario. Looks like my lawn needs another feeding.

Joe, No Rinse only contains soy based polymers that are cross-linked with amine groups (nitrogen) and both amine and soy (acetates) act as fertilizer. There are no Phosphates in any of the Optimum Car Care products since phosphates cause algae issues and are banned from use in many industries.

af90
06-24-2015, 02:21 AM
Even got Dr. G involved here. Good to hear from him. I doubted with how environmentally friendly ONR is that phosphates would be in it.

silverfox
06-24-2015, 04:41 AM
Always trust in Dr G. He knows more about auto paint than anybody around, and what products are safe to both paint and the environment.

trashmanssd
06-24-2015, 05:24 AM
Well I think I will have to try this. After next time I use ONR for a wash I will have to dump the bucket on the lawn. Maybe the lawn just needs a wash!

Loser
06-24-2015, 08:12 AM
Any recommended LSPs for grass following an ONR wash?

Bunky
06-24-2015, 10:33 AM
Any recommended LSPs for grass following an ONR wash?

I level my grass regularly so an LSP is useless. Now, in California they can start applying a green LSP.

Setec Astronomy
06-24-2015, 11:49 AM
Now, in California they can start applying a green LSP.

So that would be...Power Lock?