Concern with souveran spray

[Thejoyofdriving]

I am concerned that all of the solvents used to get rock hard carnauba into a liquid will also dissolve the layers of wax that is already on the paint. I want to use it as a wax booster after every other wash or so but i am thinking that all of those solvents will just take off everything and only a layer of Souveran spray wax is going to remain. Thoughts?

[trhland]

I am concerned that all of the solvents used to get rock hard carnauba into a liquid will also dissolve the layers of wax that is already on the paint. I want to use it as a wax booster after every other wash or so but i am thinking that all of those solvents will just take off everything and only a layer of Souveran spray wax is going to remain. Thoughts?
i notived that sig series 2 has solvents in it too. but then they say you can layer it hmm

[Thejoyofdriving]

i notived that sig series 2 has solvents in it too. but then they say you can layer it hmm

Well all carnauba waxes have solvents in them, carnauba starts off as a solid that is much harder than concrete, solvents are used so that it can be put into a usable form. Generaly solid waxes like a paste have the least amount of solvents where as a liquid has the most. Of course it matters how much carnauba we are talking about here. But if the amount of nuba is constant liquids have the most solvents. And I guess going along these guide lines solid waxes would be able to layer better than liquid because the solvents in the liquid wax will dissolve the first layer.

[Surfer]

Souveran Spray is a qd+ used as a booster to upkeep Souveran or other waxes even though it can be used alone (just like AW), so I doubt the solvents in it are strong enough to harm the LSP.

[Thejoyofdriving]

Souveran Spray is a qd+ used as a booster to upkeep Souveran or other waxes even though it can be used alone (just like AW), so I doubt the solvents in it are strong enough to harm the LSP.

Well they are strong enough to turn rock hard carnauba into a liquid.

[Surfer]

Well they are strong enough to turn rock hard carnauba into a liquid.Doesn't mean their strong enough to harm the LSP, solvent/minerals evaporate fairly quickly when applied as the wax sets. I've used other detail sprays with solvents like PB's QW+ or whatever its called (forgot) that never harmed the lsp and I know b/c qw+ last a week or two if that, and beading still continues tightly from lsp originally. QW+ by itself, and there's pretty much no beading after a week or two.

I wouldn't be worried about Souveran Spray, or any other qd+

[makdaddy626]

I agree, the solvents may be strong enough to keep the wax from hardening when added while the wax is melted but not strong enough to harm the fully cured LSP.

[Reddwarf]

I am concerned that all of the solvents used to get rock hard carnauba into a liquid will also dissolve the layers of wax that is already on the paint. I want to use it as a wax booster after every other wash or so but i am thinking that all of those solvents will just take off everything and only a layer of Souveran spray wax is going to remain. Thoughts?

I think NOT!

[Thejoyofdriving]

I think NOT!

Why?

[TOGWT]

By applying a product that contains a solvent (QD) to a surface that has a previously applied wax or sealant that has set-up (wax) or cross-liked (polymer) you will probably soften the top most surface but you won't remove it. The solvent content in a QD is not usually that high, just enough to soften the wax (and most are synthetic (Microcrystalline) polymer wax) and help the spray to atomise

Water-based quick detailer’s (QD) are usually an oil-in-water emulsion that is formulated with silicone, polymer or mineral oils that act as a lubricant and a solvent that helps the spray to atomise the product

[Gary Sword]

I believe every product that contains carnauba in it uses a solvent. Using a solvent is the only way to break down the carnauba in a usable form.

[ScottB]

solvents used in most waxes and almost all qd'er type products flash almost immediately upon hitting the environment. This also why these need air tight lids and can dry up to a hard mess if left open.

[Surfer]

solvents used in most waxes and almost all qd'er type products flash almost immediately upon hitting the environment. This also why these need air tight lids and can dry up to a hard mess if left open.:iagree:

[Thejoyofdriving]

I believe every product that contains carnauba in it uses a solvent. Using a solvent is the only way to break down the carnauba in a usable form.

Thats what I said "all carnauba waxes have solvents in them, carnauba starts off as a solid that is much harder than concrete, solvents are used so that it can be put into a usable form"-ME. So according to your statements killr and TOGWT would I be right in saying that if I poured alcohol(which is probably much more mild than the stuff they use to break down carnauba) all over my paint which has cured carnauba on it, it would be ok because it flashes fast and it would only weaken the top layer?http://planetsmilies.net/confused-smiley-17428.gif (http://planetsmilies.net) http://planetsmilies.net/confused-smiley-17466.gif (http://planetsmilies.net)

[Surfer]

Thats what I said "all carnauba waxes have solvents in them, carnauba starts off as a solid that is much harder than concrete, solvents are used so that it can be put into a usable form"-ME. So according to your statements killr and TOGWT would I be right in saying that if I poured alcohol(which is probably much more mild than the stuff they use to break down carnauba) all over my paint which has cured carnauba on it, it would be ok because it flashes fast and it would only weaken the top layer?http://planetsmilies.net/confused-smiley-17428.gif (http://planetsmilies.net) http://planetsmilies.net/confused-smiley-17466.gif (http://planetsmilies.net)Your making it more complicated then it is