PBL coatings...

[Sizzle Chest]

5/11/2015:

Tried the Pinnacle Black Label Diamond Paint Coating and the Pinnacle Black Label Diamond Glass Coating.

The victim: My Porsche 911.

Pinnacle Black Label Diamond Paint Coating. I started with my door jams first to see how it went on/off/flashed. Goes on easy. 'Spreads/covers' well. A little seems to go a long way. The high spots wiped off easily enough. It seemed to 'darken' the paint a bit. It really appears to have made the metallic pop...and the paint looks like it has a lot of depth to it. So far I am a believer. I will see what the durability/upkeep is and report back.

Next up to bat: Pinnacle Black Label Diamond Glass Coating. Very easy to use! Spray onto the glass, apply/spread/cover the glass, wait approx. 1 minute or so for it to flash, and then wipe away the high spots. It left the glass looking very 'clean' and streak free. Nice.






UPDATE!!! 06/01/2015

Just under 30 days on the coatings. Almost 3k miles on them though! We just got back from a week long road trip.

We had a variety of driving conditions. Clear skies, rain, drizzle, road construction, bugs, and more bugs, straight intense sun, shady, sappy, tree canopy lined roads, etc.




My observations: PBL paint coating. Bugs wiped off easily with some UWW and a waterless wash towel. Car was 'dirty/grimy' from driving. Not hammered, but you could tell it was not clean. I used some UWW on the front end and mirrors on the first night we stopped. It cleaned up well...it just didn't finish well. It streaked like crazy. Now, this could be due to my UWW %, I know I mixed it a little heavy before the trip, but it really streaked and was a bear to wipe down without making me nervous about marring the surface.

Did an actual wash when we arrived at the cabin. WOW! The water just blows right off the surfaces! Very impressive. It appears to be very hydrophobic. I washed our friends 911 Cabriolet also and he commented on how his car was not doing the same to the water and that he could even see the shampoo was having a difficult time 'sticking' to the surface.

Surface still feels slick and still has a nice 'glow' to it.

:xyxthumbs::xyxthumbs::xyxthumbs: three thumbs up so far!




PBL glass coating: As I said in my application review: very user friendly and easy to apply/remove. Glass looks great. During the wash, water blew right off/rolled right off the glass. Nice.

Driving in the rain: Not impressed at all. I would have thought that the water would have rolled right off during driving. It DID NOT. I had to be going well over 45mph before the glass started to clear itself. I was very surprised. I would have thought it would have been much better. I have used other glass 'sealants' before and they have out performed this IMO. (my wife even made the statement that RainX performs better)

My rear glass is somewhat slanted and in a relief: the water DID bead, but just sat there. It did not go anywhere at all...even after the rain stopped and I was at highway speeds. I was puzzled.

I may let this run its' course or I am thinking of polishing it off and putting something else back on that I know performs to my standards.

:xyxthumbs: One thumbs up, maybe 1.5 due to the ease of use.

Well that's my early review!!!
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[The Guz]

Nice review.

How did you prep the glass?

[hollerstiltner]

Nice review. I've not tried the paint coating, but you're dead on with the glass coating IMO.

[davey g-force]

Thanks for the review! :xyxthumbs:

[Sizzle Chest]

Nice review.

How did you prep the glass?


Cleaned, clayed, surface cleansing polish via Rupes 3".

[The Guz]

Cleaned, clayed, surface cleansing polish via Rupes 3".

I have the DP glass coating that's been on for 4 months now and it too starts to sheet about 37-40 mph based on the HUD on the car. I was hoping it would sheet at a lower speed. Such as Meguiar's D156 I've seen it sheet around 20-25ish mph. I can't recall how the rear glass behaves with DP glass coating since it hasn't rained here in So Cal in a few weeks.

[glfnaz]

I have the DP glass coating that's been on for 4 months now and it too starts to sheet about 37-40 mph based on the HUD on the car. I was hoping it would sheet at a lower speed. Such as Meguiar's D156 I've seen it sheet around 20-25ish mph. I can't recall how the rear glass behaves with DP glass coating since it hasn't rained here in So Cal in a few weeks.

How long does the M 156 last on the windshield before the next application?

[The Guz]

How long does the M 156 last on the windshield before the next application?


Honestly I don't remember. I was using it on all surfaces as a drying aid every other wash. One thing to note is that I did get some wiper blade chatter with D156. Nothing with the glass coating.

I have PBL wheel coating on my wheels and I have been very satisfied with the results thus far. It's been on the wheels for 1 month.

[Nick McKees37]

Thanks for the updates! :props:


Cleaned, clayed, surface cleansing polish via Rupes 3".

40-45 mph is the norm for most glass coatings that I've used (and I've used A LOT of them :) ). RainX leaves an oily film on the surface that does in fact cause water to roll off at lower speeds, but the affect doesn't last long at all. I guess you could call that a "trade off."

To ensure all remaining residue is removed from the Surface Cleansing Polish, I like to clean the glass using a glass cleaner after wiping off the polish. If you don't flip the towel often when wiping off the polish, you're basically redepositing it, which will leave a thin film of residue that will not allow the coating to completely adhere to the glass. Better safe than sorry.

:dblthumb2:

[Sizzle Chest]

Thanks for the updates! :props:



40-45 mph is the norm for most glass coatings that I've used (and I've used A LOT of them :) ). RainX leaves an oily film on the surface that does in fact cause water to roll off at lower speeds, but the affect doesn't last long at all. I guess you could call that a "trade off."

To ensure all remaining residue is removed from the Surface Cleansing Polish, I like to clean the glass using a glass cleaner after wiping off the polish. If you don't flip the towel often when wiping off the polish, you're basically redepositing it, which will leave a thin film of residue that will not allow the coating to completely adhere to the glass. Better safe than sorry.

:dblthumb2:


Thanks Nick. I am going to polish it off and redo it just to make sure it wasn't 'operator error'; I know it wasn't but want to try it anyway!

I'll update my review when finished!

[DaytonaJae]

Very interested in your findings on the second attempt. Keep on sizzlin!

[Sizzle Chest]

^^^Cool. Gonna try to do it this weekend and will keep this thread posted! (I'll keep my fingers crossed I don't run into any rain though! Haha)

[The Guz]

Is this what you were kind of describing with the PBL glass coating?


This is DP Glass Coating

http://www.autopia.org/gallery/data/759/IMG_3451a.jpg

[Elex]

Sizzle -

I have used the PBL "surface" coating on glass (the multipurpose paint, glass, wheels version) and I have had the same results as you have described. Very un-impressed and my partner made the same comment after I did his Sierra truck that rainx works better. I thought maybe the dedicated PBL glass coating would work better.

The problem is that I did about 5 or so friends vehicles before we did our own to realize this. They all are the same way, water wants to hang on to the glass way too much at lower speeds.

Call it user error if you want, but I'm trying aquapel next and skipping messing around with the pbl coating on glass, its too much effort for the results. Like the pbl surface coating ln the paint, but not on glass.

Just , my 2 cents.

[Jrocket]

Carpro FlybyForte. :props:

I use PBL diamond surface coating for paint.. but like others have said.. for glass it just doesn't seem to do the trick..