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Cleanex
04-11-2015, 08:36 AM
Guys,
if I want to remove any existing LSP (except coating) by a chemical way - NOT by polishing - what other products I can use besides Griot's Paint Prep? I simply want a product to use on cars I have no history and to just be safe in general before re-applying a new LSP.

It seems that Griot's Paint Prep is just for this job, but sadly it is not available in my area.

I am new to this, and the terminology for these products are super confusing, as you know.

Thanks in advance.

Isewake
04-11-2015, 09:05 AM
I use Klean Strip Prep All

Ccrew
04-11-2015, 09:35 AM
It seems that Griot's Paint Prep is just for this job, but sadly it is not available in my area.

Not available as in can't walk into a store and buy it, or not allowed to be sold where you are for some reason? Reason I ask is that I believe that's one of those products that has to ship ground, but I can't buy it locally either so I just order via web.

RMM
04-11-2015, 09:55 AM
Pinnacle Paintwork Cleansing Lotion will restore and preserve your car's original beauty. (http://www.autogeek.net/pinpainclean.html)
Pinnacle Black Label Surface Cleansing Polish (http://www.autogeek.net/black-label-polish.html)
P21S Gloss Enhancing Paintwork Cleanser car polish - This pre-wax cleaner and polish is a German blend of quality ingredients that will make wax (http://www.autogeek.net/p2paincleanl.html)
Wolfgang Pre-Wax Polish Enhancer is absolutely fabulous for producing that elusive, show-ready wet-shine look. This polish actually enhances and (http://www.autogeek.net/wg2000.html)
Auto Finesse Tough Prep Pre-Sealant Paint Cleanser (http://www.autogeek.net/auto-finesse-tough-prep.html)
Duragloss Squeaky Clean Surface Prep
Gyon Prep

All these will do the trick.

mwoolfso
04-11-2015, 10:16 AM
OTC pre-wax cleaners will work. Mothers has Step 1 and Meguiars has something similar. I know Mother's Step 1 has no LSP properties.

Isewake
04-11-2015, 10:56 AM
Reading a bit more about Prep All, I'm going to stop using it. Too many solvents and some hazardous to your health (toluene, benzene). I googled it before to see how strong it was but didn't come up with much. I just googled it again and found some things I did not like. Not sure how those solvents will affect the clear coat long term with continued use.

Cleanex
04-11-2015, 11:10 AM
I believe pre-wax cleaners are more for using after polishing, and what I need is paint prep/cleaner, whatever confusing different names are used.

I don't want to the product to be removing minor swirls etc, just to remove old wax and sealant, that is all.

Griot's paint prep is not sold in my country at all, but if nothing else exists or it is simply the best I can import it. Just the shipping is more than the product itself, so that was the problem.

Cleanex
04-11-2015, 11:15 AM
Pinnacle Paintwork Cleansing Lotion will restore and preserve your car's original beauty. (http://www.autogeek.net/pinpainclean.html)
Pinnacle Black Label Surface Cleansing Polish (http://www.autogeek.net/black-label-polish.html)
P21S Gloss Enhancing Paintwork Cleanser car polish - This pre-wax cleaner and polish is a German blend of quality ingredients that will make wax (http://www.autogeek.net/p2paincleanl.html)
Wolfgang Pre-Wax Polish Enhancer is absolutely fabulous for producing that elusive, show-ready wet-shine look. This polish actually enhances and (http://www.autogeek.net/wg2000.html)
Auto Finesse Tough Prep Pre-Sealant Paint Cleanser (http://www.autogeek.net/auto-finesse-tough-prep.html)
Duragloss Squeaky Clean Surface Prep
Gyon Prep

All these will do the trick.

Thanks, but I checked all of them except "gyon prep" that I can't find and it seems all of them are a bit different product I am looking for.

Belair
04-11-2015, 11:18 AM
Sounds to me like you're talking about what clay can do, but it's not a liquid chemical.

Auto Detailing Clay Bar, Clay Bar Lubricant, Overspray Clay, professional detailing clay, car care, car clay, remove bugs, detailing products, (http://www.autogeek.net/clbaandlu.html)

Isewake
04-11-2015, 11:25 AM
How about CarPro Eraser, Blackfire Crystal Coat Paint Prep?

FUNX650
04-11-2015, 11:56 AM
Here's a few "chemicals" to consider:
•Kleanstrip
•Prep-Sol
•Wurth Clean Solve
•3M Inspection Spray
•Meguiar's D114 @1:4 dilution ratio


If you want:
Type "wax & grease removers" into your browser for more
of these types of dedicated LSP-removal-product choices.


Bob

Rmd
04-11-2015, 12:39 PM
Would something like the Blackfire coating prep really remove an LSP, or is it more designed to remove polishing oils after polish? Same with eraser, I think that is designed to remove polishing oils too, not strip an LSP.

I think Bob's examples are more in line with stripping an LSP.

Isewake
04-11-2015, 12:48 PM
Would something like the Blackfire coating prep really remove an LSP, or is it more designed to remove polishing oils after polish? Same with eraser, I think that is designed to remove polishing oils too, not strip an LSP.

I think Bob's examples are more in line with stripping an LSP.
Thanks. I'm also looking for something to strip LSP without polishing. I can cross those off my list.

Isewake
04-11-2015, 12:54 PM
Since Chemical Guys Bug and Tar Heavy Duty Car Wash Shampoo is not wax/sealant safe, will it strip the old LSP?

tuscarora dave
04-11-2015, 12:59 PM
Rusroleum makes a wax and grease remover that could work if available. I only use it to pre-clean before sanding and painting. I get it at WalMart.