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TheAverageMan
04-06-2015, 11:25 PM
I ran the math, and need some help, or verification if I did it right. I'm okay at math, but was confused on some parts

I am getting D114 and want to dilute a 1:256, 1:192, 1:128 ratios. I plan to put them in 32 oz spray bottles. I am better at the metric system, since I find it more accurate, and easier to use with a tuberculin syringe.

I need someone to clarify my math, if I am doing it right please.
32 oz bottle = 946 ml bottle

1:256 = 0.125 oz when you take 32/256.
0.125 oz = 3.7 ml of concentrate

Now the question. I need 3.7 ml of concentrate in a 946 ml bottle, correct?

Would that mean that I subtract the 3.7ml from 946. Meaning that I would need 942.3 ml of water, and 3.7 ml of concentrate.
Like this.

942.3 ml H2O + 3.7 ml concentrate = 946 ml solution = 32 oz

Another question. What is the best water I could use for this? I have access to 5 gallon purified water that we use for drinking, should I use that stuff measured out?

As for the 1:192 and 1:128 ratios, I have these formulas.

1:192 = 32/192 = 0.167 oz = 4.94 ml conc. - 946 ml H2O = 941.06 ml H2O
941.06 ml H2O + 4.94 ml concentrate = 946 ml solution = 32 oz.

ryandamartini
04-06-2015, 11:33 PM
Dilution Calculator (http://dilutioncalc.com/)

Real Riders
04-06-2015, 11:45 PM
This seems complicated. I just add one ounce to 2 gallons of tap water and then fill my 32oz bottle with the solution from the bucket and use it as pre soak

frankprozzoly
04-07-2015, 03:11 AM
I'm sure theres something to being correct with the dilutions but I think it's such a reasonable product,I'm not stingy with it at all.

Mask
04-07-2015, 05:22 AM
Distilled water or DI water.
Wouldn't it be easier to mix them at:
- 1:100
- 1:200
- 1:250

Regards :D

ihaveacamaro
04-07-2015, 06:04 AM
Life can be made a lot easier. This is assuming you have a 1 oz measuring cup.

Just prepare gallons and watch this.

For 1:256, get a gallon of water, pour out 1/2 oz into the measuring cup, and throw that water out. Pour in 1/2 oz of Megs into measuring cup and pour into gallon. Now you have a gallon of 1:256 solution.

For 1:128, do the same but pour 1 oz.

For 1:192, do the same but pour 2/3 oz.

And that's it, now you label your three gallons of water as each dilution and pour into the spray bottle from there. Don't make it complicated.

TheAverageMan
04-07-2015, 07:16 AM
Thanks for the replies. The calculator came out with the same answers as my calculations. And oh snap, Roshan is in here, I watched a bunch of your videos on dilution, nanoskin, and rinseless wash stuff while researching. Ill probably do what you said, and just make D114 by the gallon.

conman1395
04-07-2015, 07:28 AM
Life can be made a lot easier. This is assuming you have a 1 oz measuring cup.

Just prepare gallons and watch this.

For 1:256, get a gallon of water, pour out 1/2 oz into the measuring cup, and throw that water out. Pour in 1/2 oz of Megs into measuring cup and pour into gallon. Now you have a gallon of 1:256 solution.

For 1:128, do the same but pour 1 oz.

For 1:192, do the same but pour 2/3 oz.

And that's it, now you label your three gallons of water as each dilution and pour into the spray bottle from there. Don't make it complicated.
That's what I do for my 1:128 dilution of D114 that I put in my 56 oz pump sprayer.

ihaveacamaro
04-07-2015, 07:36 AM
Thanks for the replies. The calculator came out with the same answers as my calculations. And oh snap, Roshan is in here, I watched a bunch of your videos on dilution, nanoskin, and rinseless wash stuff while researching. Ill probably do what you said, and just make D114 by the gallon.

It'll make life a ton easier, trust me :) :props:


That's what I do for my 1:128 dilution of D114 that I put in my 56 oz pump sprayer.

:dblthumb2:

Mike Phillips
04-07-2015, 07:46 AM
There's always the glug-glug method...


:props:

hollerstiltner
04-07-2015, 07:48 AM
That's some impressive unit conversions you got going on there. I can appreciate that. Unfortunately, it's not really needed here. Dilution ratios don't care what units you start with. So I tend to make it a percent and go from there.

For example 192:1. 1ml of additive plus 192ml of water. If you mix it perfectly you get 193ml of finished product. 1 divided by 193 gives you 0.00518 or 0.518%. So now we just multiply.

You want 946ml total. 946ml x 0.00518 = 4.9ml. Add 4.9ml to you container and fill to the 946ml mark.

I hope that came across correctly. I have trouble explaining things through text.

Setec Astronomy
04-07-2015, 07:53 AM
For 1:256, get a gallon of water, pour out 1/2 oz into the measuring cup, and throw that water out. Pour in 1/2 oz of Megs into measuring cup and pour into gallon. Now you have a gallon of 1:256 solution.

For 1:128, do the same but pour 1 oz.

Yeah, but that gives you 1:255 and 1:127...I hope you do better at mixing amalgam :p

FUNX650
04-07-2015, 08:51 AM
Dear "TheAverageMan

I, for one, appreciate your attention (OCD-ness)
to such small details... :xyxthumbs:

Pay no attention to the:
"nattering nabobs of negativity"!! ~S.T.Agnew

They're the same ones that are at least a little OCD,
themselves, when it comes to being concerned about
the many, many other matters of detailing-details... :)


I ran the math, and need some help, or verification if I did it right.

I need someone to clarify my math, if I am doing it right please.

As far as I'm concerned:
your math is spot on!

•But, being a little OCD myself;
as well as being: old school...

I would have went with this conversion method:
-ounce (US liquid) = mL
-gallon (US liquid) = mL

•As such, then [when rounding-off to the fourth place;
and: using "US Liquid"]:

-1oz. = 29.5735mL
-2oz. = 59.1471mL
-32oz.= 946.3529 mL

-1gal. = 3785.4118 mL
-1.5 gal. = 5678.1177mL
-2gal. = 7570.8236mL

Resulting in the same/similar D114 dilution ratios
at which you arrived.


If you don't mind...
Besides the ones you've listed:
Allow me to add a couple other D114 dilution ratios...
that you may find to facilitate other detailing duties.

•In an ~946 mL container (using distilled water):
-256:1 = 942.3 mL water/3.7 mL D114
-192:1 = 941.1 mL water/4.9 mL D114
-128:1 = 938.7 mL water/7.3 mL D114
-15:1 ..= 886.9 mL water/59.1 mL D114 ("panel wipe")
-6:1 ... = 810.9 mL water/135 mL D114 ("wax stripper")
-4:1 ... = 756.8 mL water/189.2 mL D114 ("wax stripper")


I
Another question. What is the best water I could use for this? I have access to 5 gallon purified water that we use for drinking, should I use that stuff measured out?

I'm not familiar with your "purified" water for drinking purposes: Does that mean it's Distilled water?
If so: that's a go! :)

BTW:
I've always heard that distilled water is not as healthy for drinking-water as your tap water would be. Something about humans needing minerals and such.
(But that's a subject for a different OCD-thread)


Bob

TheAverageMan
04-08-2015, 12:30 AM
Thank you for all the replies. I got a hold of a few things.

2x 60 ml/2 oz syringes, and 2x 1 gallon distilled water.
I also went to Home Depot and got a HDX 32oz spray bottle for 2 bucks, and a hand pump spray thing from the gardening section for 6 bucks.

Will be putting in all of your measurement advice. Thanks.