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newbie12345
11-11-2014, 01:21 AM
Hi Guys

I've heard great things about Klasse twins but have a few questions.

On Saturday, I did Klasse AIO first and then put an extremely super thin layer of Klasse sealant. I basically transferred the Klasse sealant into a spray bottle and did 2 spritz on my applicator and then applied SUPER THIN per panel. I waited 30 minutes, but there was no buffing required or streaking or excess residue.

1. Is it normal, that Klasse sealant has no excess residue or buffing required after 30 minutes ? I’m worried I applied it way too thin contrary to other users applying too thick.

2. I don’t have a garage so my car will get dust/pollen on it after 8 to 12 hours cure time.Therefore, Would it be okay re-layer Klasse weekly ?

I presume I need to re-wash my car (with optimum car wash), mf towel dry it and then re-layer Klasse sealant every week. Any bonding issues with this weekly layering process as opposed to immediate 8 hours (if I had a clean dust free garage).

3.How many layers of Klasse sealant for maximum shine ?
I’ve heard 3, 4, 5 , and some guy did 14.

Thanks

Setec Astronomy
11-11-2014, 06:27 AM
You put it on the right way. You want to put it on so thin it basically disappears, and that's why you had nothing to buff off.

As far as putting a layer on every week, that might be a bit of overkill, but you will certainly have great protection that way--and it's probably the only way you will be able to use the bottle up. I've heard one experienced user say that at 5 layers is where he really gets the performance of the product. I'd say do it every week until you're tired of doing it.

Swift
11-11-2014, 06:34 AM
1) When I apply sealant, leave it to dry. It starts to haze. Thats when I know its time to buff. I don't use Klasse, so I don't know. You need to apply thin. So, don't worry bout it. Did you apply evenly? Did you cover each section properly? If not, you might want to be on safe side and apply another coat.

2)Mate you apply Sealant, so that you don't apply it every week. I completely understand that your car get dusty easily. Get something called California Duster. Wipe away dust with this during weekdays and maybe wash the car on Sundays.

3) When you wash your car. While drying with MF towel, make sure you don't put too much pressure on towel.
4) I reckon two coats, if done properly is more than enough. Use different MF towels for wiping away sealant and buffing the car. Just buff 'well' (with buffing MF towels). Shine will follow.
5) People usually apply coats every 4 to 6 months, since your car gets dirty easily, you might want to do it every 3 to 4 months.

Few links to applying Klasse Sealant.

Klasse usa ,Klasse Application Guide, How to apply Klasse AIO, Klasse High Gloss Sealant Glaze, All-in-one, klasse all-in-one (http://www.autogeek.net/klasse-usa.html)
Klasse High Gloss Sealant Glaze (KSG) Guide and Review | Ask a Pro Blog (http://www.detailedimage.com/Ask-a-Pro/klasse-high-gloss-sealant-glaze-ksg-guide-and-review/)
Klasse Car Care, Klasse All-In-One, Klasse Sealant Glaze, high gloss, car, automotive, glaze, paint protection, microfiber, polish applicator, Black Sealant Applicator, The Klasse Twins (http://www.eshine.ca/klasse_article.htm)

Happy Detailing.:)

TroyScherer
11-11-2014, 06:36 AM
That sounds like a great plan.


I usually did KAIO and then 2-3 layers of KSG in my main detailing weekend. And then a another few layers a few weeks later. I usually stopped @ 4-6 depending.

I have always wanted to be able to leave a vehicle inside and simply add layers of KSG every day until I had 20+ just to see how it would look.

newbie12345
11-11-2014, 07:46 PM
Thanks guys for the all the advice and tips.

Desertnate
11-12-2014, 09:42 AM
Hi Guys

I've heard great things about Klasse twins but have a few questions.

On Saturday, I did Klasse AIO first and then put an extremely super thin layer of Klasse sealant. I basically transferred the Klasse sealant into a spray bottle and did 2 spritz on my applicator and then applied SUPER THIN per panel. I waited 30 minutes, but there was no buffing required or streaking or excess residue.

1. Is it normal, that Klasse sealant has no excess residue or buffing required after 30 minutes ? I’m worried I applied it way too thin contrary to other users applying too thick.

2. I don’t have a garage so my car will get dust/pollen on it after 8 to 12 hours cure time.Therefore, Would it be okay re-layer Klasse weekly ?

I presume I need to re-wash my car (with optimum car wash), mf towel dry it and then re-layer Klasse sealant every week. Any bonding issues with this weekly layering process as opposed to immediate 8 hours (if I had a clean dust free garage).

3.How many layers of Klasse sealant for maximum shine ?
I’ve heard 3, 4, 5 , and some guy did 14.

Thanks

1. It sounds like you did it right. On dark colored cars you will see a hint of the product being there if you look closely. Buffing it out will produce a brilliant shine.

2. Layering weekly is overkill. 1~2 coats will last six months through even the worst winters. In warmer months/climates it may last even longer.

3. I've never seen any change in the shine after two coats. Even the difference between one and two was difficult to see. I once tried three coats and could tell no difference. I felt silly for wasting my time.

Klasse SG is a great product with remarkable durability. The greatness of the the product is the ability to apply a coat or two and then not worry about it for months. Take advantage of it! If you really want to amp up the shine after a wash, get a product like Meguiars Ultimate Quick Wax or Duragloss Aquawax to use as a topper.

Wes45
11-12-2014, 09:53 AM
Hi Guys

I've heard great things about Klasse twins but have a few questions.

On Saturday, I did Klasse AIO first and then put an extremely super thin layer of Klasse sealant. I basically transferred the Klasse sealant into a spray bottle and did 2 spritz on my applicator and then applied SUPER THIN per panel. I waited 30 minutes, but there was no buffing required or streaking or excess residue.

1. Is it normal, that Klasse sealant has no excess residue or buffing required after 30 minutes ? I’m worried I applied it way too thin contrary to other users applying too thick.

2. I don’t have a garage so my car will get dust/pollen on it after 8 to 12 hours cure time.Therefore, Would it be okay re-layer Klasse weekly ?

I presume I need to re-wash my car (with optimum car wash), mf towel dry it and then re-layer Klasse sealant every week. Any bonding issues with this weekly layering process as opposed to immediate 8 hours (if I had a clean dust free garage).

3.How many layers of Klasse sealant for maximum shine ?
I’ve heard 3, 4, 5 , and some guy did 14.

Thanksi used 3 times and let each coat cure for 24 hrs and the same for the other 2 with this polish and sealant came out great :) TODAY IM GOING TO USE THE VICTORIA RED WAX ON TOP AND SO FAR THE AIO COMBO LOOKS GREAT :)

JMP
11-12-2014, 09:53 AM
I applied a coat of Klasse to my son's car in July... Now all we do is wash, blow dry and wipe down with Wolfgang instant detail, "perfect shine all the time".

ScottB
11-12-2014, 10:38 AM
Sonus makes a great acrylic spray to use as a booster to Klasse.

Sonus Acrylic Glanz Spray Sealant, Sonus paint sealant spray, spray paint sealant (http://www.autogeek.net/sonus-acrylic-glanz-sealant.html)

Klasse Act
11-12-2014, 12:59 PM
I've been using the Klasse twins since 2005 and don't apply it and leave it on for 30 minutes, I apply it to a section or panel and then remove right away, its the way I was told to use it back in the day. In my years of using it the 2nd coat 12 hrs later really makes the paint POP!

Because its so easy to use I could see where someone might wanna apply it once a week and even I think that's too much but what you could do is make up a gallon of QD using your favorite rinseless wash and add 2 oz of KSG to the mix, shake before using and you'd be applying a very thin layer of protection while cleaning the car too.

What I do to apply KSG is take a bowl of water, dump my square, mf applicator in there, wring out and spray 2 sprays onto the applicator and then work it into the section or panel and then remove. After every panel I dunk the applicator back into the bowl, wring out and squirt some more KSG onto the pad and keep moving along;);)

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Belphegor
11-13-2014, 12:28 PM
One tip I'll add for the OP: when buffing off/ removing any LSP, it's usually helpful to use a swirl finder light, or bright LED flashlight, which may reveal any residual product. A good example is in Dr. Pain's thread on how to use CarPro Reload.

newbie12345
11-30-2014, 10:12 PM
Update:
I layered Klasse sealant the next week after the 1st coat successfully. I got a bit "adventurous" and applied a bit too much this time. Yes, it streaked badly and I now know the pain.

I managed to buff most of it off with KSG:Water 1:6 spray and distilled water (I don't have any QD or a bright LED swirl torch). The rest of the streaks , I just left on the car for a fortnight until my next car wash. The remaining streaks came off during the car wash (perhaps it was the microfibre towel drying process).

Anyway, I'm definitely going to try the WOWO approach in 6 months time for Klasse sealant, which people have recommended.

Final Results:
The paint looks great in full sun. The paint looks like there's a thin layer of clear plastic and you can see the paint "speckles" glitter.

One thing I did notice, it didn't show a reflection (i.e. mirror image) as good as Optimum spray wax, which seemed to give a better reflection but less "speckle" glitter.

I may put some DP max wax over it and see what it looks like. And then maybe some optimum spray wax as booster after every second wash, since, i've got these products too.

Klasse Act
12-01-2014, 08:14 AM
The WOWO method is the ONLY way I've ever done it since first getting KSG back in 2005, always works w/o a problem. The bowl of water, dunking the square, cotton/mf applicator in there every other panel is key here, always having a slightly damp applicator makes a thin coat much easier and removal easier!

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DRO220
12-01-2014, 08:47 AM
I've also found WOWO with a damp applicator to be painless since I started using this method after reading about it on this forum :xyxthumbs: I apply 3 layers with no removal issues, letting each layer cure for 12 hours. I just sprayed Aquawax over a dry KSG surface last night and the results were awesome, takes the KSG and gives it a deeper gloss.

Klasse Act
12-01-2014, 09:21 AM
I've also found WOWO with a damp applicator to be painless since I started using this method after reading about it on this forum :xyxthumbs: I apply 3 layers with no removal issues, letting each layer cure for 12 hours. I just sprayed Aquawax over a dry KSG surface last night and the results were awesome, takes the KSG and gives it a deeper gloss.

AW over the top of KSG, its a beautiful thing:cool:

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