A little problem with sun shots

[NeoSquall]

Hello!

I dont quite know what is going on with this. Car is Hyundai Getz.

http://i61.tinypic.com/234ch5.jpg

http://i60.tinypic.com/14ax1ub.jpg

under a floodlight or a LED torch, the "hologram" or flare doesnt seem to exist. However under the direct sunlight its one long massive flare even with the naked eye.

Is this hologram? or is it just a case of an angular problem of the sun?

a little details of what I used:
DAS-6 Pro DA
Menzerna FG400(the paint was massively swirled and scratched)
Menzerna PF2200
Osren Perfect Cut(acts as a final polish/glaze. Has a cutting level of 3 out of 10)
Meguiars M21
Carpro Wool pad(for menzerna FG400)
LC Orange(for menzerna PF2200)
LC Black(for Osren Perfect Cut)

Your help is greatly appreciated.

[David Hayward]

To me that looks just like the reflection of the sun. If it was holograms it would be all over typically, not just the little glare around the small spot where the sun is reflecting.

[swanicyouth]

Unfortunately, if it's that hard to discern in person - we will not likely be able to give you a definitive answer by looking at pictures. Bad holograms are easy to spot. Extremely shallow "DA type" holograms are only visible on certain colors, under certain lighting (usually bright sun), and at certain angles. Been there - done that.

If they are "DA holograms" - they are quite easy to remove. They could be caused by over/under working the product, a contaminated/dirty pad, or just a freak of nature where a certain pad/polish/paint just doesn't work optimally together.

If it was me and I was concerned about this, I would tape off an area of the hood and do a test spot with another finishing polish and pad combo. Then, pull the car out in the sun and compare. Holograms should be: the same, better, or worse. Proceed from there. If they are "worse" - I'm guessing it's a technique issue.

My guess is if you think there are holograms - there are holograms.

[FUNX650]

From where I'm sitting...
Really doesn't look like holograms.

http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/hot-topics-frequently-asked-questions/28443-difference-between-rotary-buffer-swirls-cobweb-swirls-micro-marring-da-haze-tick-marks.html

Go back over a "test spot" with a very, very light abrasive product. Do not use the "Osren" for this purpose!!


Bob

[NeoSquall]

Thanks guys for your replies...

The thing that got me intrigued was the long flare line that seems to stays in that position no matter which way I look.

will go back to do a small test spot. :)

[Tato]

Does not look like a defect for me either.

First thing I'd do would be clean the camera lenses. I'm telling this because a day my daughter played with my camera, and my car shots went all with a strange line just like you're showing.

Soon I've discovered the grease of daughter's finger on the lenses, cleaned them and everything went back to normal. Not saying it's your case, but can be an option.

Another thing I do when I have this kind of glare, to discover the 'origin' or if it's in the paint or in the light reflection, is:

Choose a spot where panels meet, and see if the glare stop at panel end, or it goes over, I mean, if it exists were there's no paint, it's a light issue, not a paint defect issue.

Let me know if this pic is enough to explain what I'm saying:

http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/500/medium/Track14_22.png

If you notice, the glare still exists where there's no painted surface, in the gap between parts, meaning it's not a paint defect but a light issue.

In this particular case, that was caused by my daughter's finger on lenses, and issue was solved after cleaning the camera lenses.

One more to illustrate:

http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/500/Track14_25.png

Hope that helps,

Kind Regards.

[NeoSquall]

that helped a lot! thanks!

[David Hayward]

Does not look like a defect for me either.

First thing I'd do would be clean the camera lenses. I'm telling this because a day my daughter played with my camera, and my car shots went all with a strange line just like you're showing.

Soon I've discovered the grease of daughter's finger on the lenses, cleaned them and everything went back to normal. Not saying it's your case, but can be an option.

Another thing I do when I have this kind of glare, to discover the 'origin' or if it's in the paint or in the light reflection, is:

Choose a spot where panels meet, and see if the glare stop at panel end, or it goes over, I mean, if it exists were there's no paint, it's a light issue, not a paint defect issue.

Let me know if this pic is enough to explain what I'm saying:

http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/500/medium/Track14_22.png

If you notice, the glare still exists where there's no painted surface, in the gap between parts, meaning it's not a paint defect but a light issue.

In this particular case, that was caused by my daughter's finger on lenses, and issue was solved after cleaning the camera lenses.

One more to illustrate:

http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/500/Track14_25.png

Hope that helps,

Kind Regards.

That's a really good tip. I didn't even think about it that way.