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solman
08-20-2014, 06:20 PM
So I am thinking to do a polish to my car on labor day weekend. I was going to order the Menzerna P4500 and was wondering what pads I should order. The car is a dark blue VW Jetta and only 6-8 months old. It has some very light dealer installed swirls I would like to remove. hopefully I will end with a wax ready finish.
Any feedback is appreciated.
Looking to take advantage of the current sale offer.

Goldcaddy
08-20-2014, 06:26 PM
If you have the 3401 then hybrid

If you have a PC then hydro

solman
08-20-2014, 06:36 PM
Yes I have the 3401 flex. I forgot to mention it.

Goldcaddy
08-20-2014, 06:38 PM
I have both in all three colors. Hybrid definitely if you own the flex.

David Hayward
08-20-2014, 06:59 PM
Yea 5 inch hybrids for the Flex and do you have any pf2500 or fg400? May need to dip into those for a newer vw instead of sf4500.

solman
08-20-2014, 08:30 PM
Don't have those but I do have M105 and M205. I was thinking I wouldn't need too much cut.
Is the VW paint very hard?

David Hayward
08-20-2014, 10:35 PM
From my experience it is very hard. Do some test spots with the sf4500 though and look it over real good with a light before you do the whole car. Worst case you can step down to the 105 if needed. The last one I did was a 2014 Jetta. I had to go to a white css pad with fg400 on the marks the dealer included in the package.

Mike@DedicatedPerfection
08-21-2014, 02:01 AM
The LC Hybrid pads are the bees knees on the 3401.

I would grab a few different color pads so that way you have options to choose from if you need more cut. I would also grab Menzerna FG400 and SF4000 to complete this setup.

Honestly I would start my test spot on this Jetta with a white pad and SF4000 and go from there. SF4500 does not provide hardly any cut and for me is reserved for extracting the maximum amount of gloss from a panel.

Here is an article I put together to maximize the potential of the 3401, Hybrid pads, and Menzerna polishes. This technique is adapted for DAT based polishes such as Menzerna.
http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/auto-detailing-university/77155-my-technique-concerning-3401-menzerna-products-hybrid-pads.html

lawrenceSA
08-21-2014, 03:03 AM
I have to agree with the others - I think SF4500 is to mild.

A typical 2-step correction on VW's (most of my work) for me is usually FG400/SF4000.

Sometimes you can get away with SF4000 for a 1 step, as long as the swirls (no matter how many) are not deep, but mostly PF2500 works better. On the harder paint I tend to find it finishes down pretty close to SF4000 if you get your pad choice right.

Depending on the goal of the detail, you may still have to follow PF2500 will SF4000 (think black paint, show car results required)

nubaseal
08-21-2014, 03:56 AM
PF2500 is the way to go.