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fellipe
08-20-2014, 09:00 AM
Guys, I found this Pramac generator Powermate 3,000-Watt Gasoline Powered Portable Generator-PM0103008 at The Home Depot (http://www.homedepot.com/p/Powermate-3-000-Watt-Gasoline-Powered-Portable-Generator-PM0103008/203404861?N=5yc1vZbx9nZbwo5oZ2bctk6)

It's 3000w continuous. It's portable and quiet for a good price. The reviews are great. But now can you help me if I can power my Steamer AND my Vac at the same time. So while the steamer is heating up, I can vacuum the interior.

My steamer is the Daimer Kleenjet 300CS (120v 13Amps) - 1600W

The Vac is a Ridgid 5hp (120v 10Amps) - Aprox. 1400W

Is that generator capable of running both?

Thanks

TurboToys
08-20-2014, 09:10 AM
3000w continuous, if its a 120v generator means that you would have it at its maximum.

why wouldnt you just alternate between the two? do you need to run both at the same time?


looks like its 3000 continuous and 3750 peak (or surge). so using it i would guess you would be fine with those two, the realistic running wattage of the shop vac is 1200w, probably 1400 surge on startup, and the steamer is 1560 running based on the amp rating. that won't cause a surge.

i'd say you should be able to run both at the same time with it. (and ignore my question above, lol, i always forget about the fact that the steamer is a constant draw to heat up and stay hot)

fellipe
08-20-2014, 09:14 AM
Problem is the steamer heating time... My idea is that after I'm done vacuuming, the steamer will be ready.

So you think it's not enough?

tuscarora dave
08-20-2014, 09:18 AM
In theory (according to advertised numbers), it will handle it continuously.

In reality, you'd want to get the vacuum motor up to actual operating temperatures, then hold your hand over the nozzle to place a maximum load on the motor. While doing this, observe the actual amp draw the vacuum creates by clamping a good (Fluke) amp meter over the cord, record your numbers.

Do the same (actual amp draw test with amp meter) with the steamer (observing from full cold to full hot) and get your actual numbers then do the actual math.

That would be the fool proof method to know for sure.

TurboToys
08-20-2014, 11:35 AM
What the guy above me said, but when you are using an amp clamp you dont want to be around both wires and ground, youll need a small extension with no insulation surrounding the wires inside so you can get an accurate amp draw, technically this is the best way to determine actual draw, and most ratings are on the high side for continuous without load


Let me be clear about the wires, never handle exposed copper, im tslking about seperating the wires so you can clamp a single wire only

fellipe
08-20-2014, 11:39 AM
[QUOTE=TurboToys;1149368] ratings are on the high side for continuous without load
/QUOTE]

What do you mean by that?

fellipe
08-20-2014, 01:08 PM
http://homedepot.ugc.bazaarvoice.com/answers/1999m/156713/photo.jpg

Does this image help?

TurboToys
08-21-2014, 09:41 AM
http://homedepot.ugc.bazaarvoice.com/answers/1999m/156713/photo.jpg

Does this image help?

to get your wattage, multiply the amp rating by the voltage for that.

comes out to around 3100. you would have to literally check your loads to find out. i don't see why you don't just buy it, use it and return if it doesnt work out.

purchase it, keep the receipt. and plug your steamer in. get it goin and plug the vac in, and then go to town and see how it goes. if it doesn't work, no reason you can't return it because it didn't perform as you hoped.

fellipe
08-21-2014, 09:43 AM
Hey TurboToys, that would be excelent BUT I'm from Brazil and return a shipment to US is not that easy :( But thanks for your response.

VP Mark
08-21-2014, 11:22 AM
I have a 3400 watt ridgid and it runs both just fine. Very similiar setup.

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