Two bucket vs Garry Dean wash

[Nomadsto]

I'm now totally committed to the 1 bucket multi-towel wash method promoted by Garry Dean. Saves me the better part of an hour for washing.
Just wondering if anyone has tried it but didnt like it. Or simply "wont" even give it a try and your reasons why. Thanks

[Bunky]

When using a traditional soap, I use the 2BM and separate for wheels unless do them last and multiple wash mitt before there was something call the Gary Dean Method when doing rinseless.

[CarolinasFinestDetailing]

The Garry Deam method of rinseless washing is well known. I myself use it often. However; I still use the 2 bucket method especially for really nasty cars and when doing a strip wash. During the winter months, I pressure wash my car off and clean the wheels, then use Garry Dean method for the paint & windows.

[faulksy]

I got sick of all the extra laundry. What time multi towels saved me doing a traditional wash was quickly evaporated in the laundry washing and folding them.

While I still see it's merits for a rinseless wash, I believe it really isn't necessary for a traditional wash. I do however use different wash media for my lower body and door jambs. I also do the same when drying but add a waffle for the windows.

Anyone using the Garry Dean method should still consider an extra bucket for their wheels. No way would I want my wheel microfibre in with my good towels.

[Real Riders]

I'm now totally committed to the 1 bucket multi-towel wash method promoted by Garry Dean. Saves me the better part of an hour for washing.
Just wondering if anyone has tried it but didnt like it. Or simply "wont" even give it a try and your reasons why. Thanks

Are you talkng about the Garry Dean Wash or the Garry Dean Rinseless Wash method? He does both with one bucket

[mwoolfso]

I got sick of all the extra laundry. What time multi towels saved me doing a traditional wash was quickly evaporated in the laundry washing and folding them.

While I still see it's merits for a rinseless wash, I believe it really isn't necessary for a traditional wash. I do however use different wash media for my lower body and door jambs. I also do the same when drying but add a waffle for the windows.

Anyone using the Garry Dean method should still consider an extra bucket for their wheels. No way would I want my wheel microfibre in with my good towels.

At the end of the day it really comes down to personal preference. As an analogy, there are dozens of ways to clean a window, remove gum from a seat, vacuum a room, etc....

[WRAPT C5Z06]

A 2 bucket traditional wash is much safer than any rinseless wash, period!

[solman]

I am not sure what the benefits of a waterless wash is, except perhaps in the winter. I find I use a lot of the water I saved in the car wash for doing extra laundry. I have used waterless for a quick cleaning when the car wasn't to dirty. Might be a bit faster but not sure how much water I am actually saving. I prefer water too flush away the dirt and grime on the tires and wheels and in the wheel wells too. I feel it does a better job .With the waterless and the rinse less you just transfer the dirt that was on the car to a bunch of microfiber towels, you still have to wash it away with water in the end...
Just saying.....

[jmsc]

Like faulsky said the extra laundry is a big turn off for me too. 10-15 mf to wash. I recently bought a new $1200 front loader. No way will I wash dirty mf in it. I now do rinseless during the 3 winter months only, preceded by a power wash. 2BM sometimes becomes 3BM for me. The drive to the car wash (they use warm water in winter), a pw, dry the windows and maybe the roof/hood/trunk, drive home, do the rw, cleanup. 1.5-2 hours. And if the roads are crappy all week long then its just a pw for me.

[Kamakaz1961]

A 2 bucket traditional wash is much safer than any rinseless wash, period!

AGREED! If my ride is real dirty I use a foam gun too! But most of the time the 2 bucket 2 grit guard method is my way too. I will not use the Gary Dean 1-bucket method as I feel it is not as good as the 2-bm

But to everyone that might disagree, it is all a matter of preference.

[Kacz]

A 2 bucket traditional wash is much safer than any rinseless wash, period!

Quotes from David Ghodoussi of OPT below.



...I am not sure why you are so focused on soap since polymer based washes such as No Rinse are much better in terms of cleaning and protecting paint from marring. Furthermore, No Rinse washes do not remove lsp but add additional protection.

David,


...As I mentioned before, soap is based on surfactants that are designed to emulsify oils or waxes and it is a fairly old technology. No Rinse, however, is based on substantive polymers that bond and trap dirt and therefore act as a barrier to protect paint from marring. The dirt particles trapped by the polymers will flocculate and drop to the bottom of the bucket. Additionally these polymers provide greater lubrication than any soap without any foam. You can pre-rinse before using No Rinse but it is not necessary. You can also use two buckets if you like, however, it is much less needed with No Rinse than soap.

In the past 8 years, over 5 million washes have been done with No Rinse and we constantly get emails from customers who have eliminated their marring issues after switching to No Rinse. If you like a just waxed look, you can use No Rinse Wash & Wax instead! Let me know if I can be of further assistance.

David,


I still need to test his claims: I can't see myself how pre-rinsing a car with a pressure washer and using a top notch shampoo is NOT safer than using a rinse-less wash without pre-soaking the panels.

I have over 60 shampoos + rinse-less washes that I'm testing to see which I think is best...so I have plenty of comparisons to run and see what real world tests result in.

Edit: I thought technically these products are shampoos and NOT soaps...:dunno:

[allenk4]

A 2 bucket traditional wash is much safer than any rinseless wash, period!

And there is no one who can convince me otherwise

[2.ooohhh]

I am not sure what the benefits of a waterless wash is, except perhaps in the winter. I find I use a lot of the water I saved in the car wash for doing extra laundry. I have used waterless for a quick cleaning when the car wasn't to dirty. Might be a bit faster but not sure how much water I am actually saving. I prefer water too flush away the dirt and grime on the tires and wheels and in the wheel wells too. I feel it does a better job .With the waterless and the rinse less you just transfer the dirt that was on the car to a bunch of microfiber towels, you still have to wash it away with water in the end...
Just saying.....


There are benefits on some cars that may not show up on others. I often show my customers a basic garry dean wash as a method they can easily do at home without getting their car wet to extend the time between details. While a wet car isn't an issue for a daily driver, it is for many supercars with only mesh covering a pristinely detailed engine bay or vintage collector cars extremely worried about rust.


On this 16m the only reason I had to touch it up was b/c it had been washed after driving and water had run all over all the carbon fiber engine covers, dried, and left spots and stains.
https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5273/14379877579_f37c8aebea_z.jpg

This Carrera GT is slightly less picky but still has an impressively clean bay covered only by mesh.
https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2938/14380295838_2bd341ebb3_z.jpg

[allenk4]

Interesting that Dr G is really only comparing traditional soap to ONR and is NOT comparing 2BM vs Rinseless

The quoted comments by Dr. G really don't apply to the discussion at hand

[Kacz]

Interesting that Dr G is really only comparing traditional soap to ONR and is NOT comparing 2BM vs Rinseless

The quoted comments by Dr. G really don't apply to the discussion at hand

Most misunderstood aspect of chemistry - Autopia Forums - Auto Detailing & Car Care Discussion Forum (http://www.autopiaforums.com/forums/optimum-polymer-technologies/45954-most-misunderstood-aspect-chemistry.html)

No Rinse vrs Conventional Soaps - Autopia Forums - Auto Detailing & Car Care Discussion Forum (http://www.autopiaforums.com/forums/optimum-polymer-technologies/46046-no-rinse-vrs-conventional-soaps.html)

Then what is he comparing? Maybe I'm missing something, but it seems like that's his comparison when you see what he's quoting.