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Thejoyofdriving
08-05-2007, 12:59 PM
I have always wondered if AIO products did as good of a job as a step-by-step method? Thoughts?

D
08-05-2007, 01:02 PM
Uhhh no. Do an alcohol wipe down after using XMT 360, then do an alcohol wipe down after using XMT polish, PB SSR's, Menzerna, or Optimum. Then youll see the fillers in the 360, and none in pure polish. I dont use anything with fillers anymore unless the customer only wants a 1 step polish. And I make sure they realize the product has fillers in it.

IMO, if you're using something with fillers without the customer knowing, then you're cheating them.

Thejoyofdriving
08-05-2007, 01:10 PM
Uhhh no. Do an alcohol wipe down after using XMT 360, then do an alcohol wipe down after using XMT polish, PB SSR's, Menzerna, or Optimum. Then youll see the fillers in the 360, and none in pure polish. I dont use anything with fillers anymore unless the customer only wants a 1 step polish. And I make sure they realize the product has fillers in it.

IMO, if you're using something with fillers without the customer knowing, then you're cheating them.
Well im not necessarily talking about just AIO products for the paint, im also wondering about interior products that clean and protect. And your not really comparing apples to apples, I wondering more about products that are similar to their step-by-step counter part(i.e. leather conditioner/ cleaner vs. clean than condition.) Think of it kind of like this: imagine taking 2 step by step products, like liq. souveran and menzerna polish for example, and mixing them together, would they do as good of a job as if you were to polish with the same menzerna then follow with liq. souveran? get where im going?

D
08-05-2007, 01:19 PM
I answered your original post exactly. You asked about AIO's verses step by step. Be more specific if you want a specific answer.

I dont like AIO products for anything. I dont feel it does as good of a job. I also dont think mixing Menzerna and Liquid Souveran would be a good idea.

If you look on my site, Ive got some cheaper options in the chart at the bottom. For the premium option I use a leather cleaner and conditioner. But I wouldnt use something like that on a full detail car. The customer always gets what they pay for.

Im VERY picky when it comes to stuff like this. I dont use Dawn, I dont use more aggressive products then necessary, and I dont cut corners.

Thejoyofdriving
08-05-2007, 01:25 PM
I also dont think mixing Menzerna and Liquid Souveran would be a good idea.



I was just using it as an example. Apples to apples.

D
08-05-2007, 01:27 PM
Comparing AIO's to step by step isnt apples to apples in the first place. Neither is Menzerna to Liquid Souveran.

Thejoyofdriving
08-05-2007, 01:32 PM
Comparing AIO's to step by step isnt apples to apples in the first place. Neither is Menzerna to Liquid Souveran.

Ok, let me try to help you understand. If there was a "menzerna/liq. souveran AIO" (liq. souveran mixed with menzerna) would it be as good as if you were to do each one individually. See what im saying now, or is it still unclear? :)

D
08-05-2007, 01:34 PM
Ive answered your question in every single one of my posts. Do I need to make it more clear for you?

IMO NO. Good enough, or do you still need help?

Thejoyofdriving
08-05-2007, 01:37 PM
Ive answered your question in every single one of my posts. Do I need to make it more clear for you?

IMO NO. Good enough, or do you still need help? IMO it did seem that you werent understanding my question at first. But thank you.

D
08-05-2007, 01:39 PM
IMO it did seem that you were understanding my question at first. But thank you.

Yes you're correct, I DID understand it the whole time.

Thejoyofdriving
08-05-2007, 01:42 PM
Yes you're correct, I DID understand it the whole time.

hahaha, I ment to say weren't:o Thanks.

ScottB
08-05-2007, 01:58 PM
While AIO's do not specialize in each area of detailing like a specific product, I do think they have come along way. In the past Klasse AIO was the only boutique contender. Now I will easily pick up XMT360, ZAIO, and Optimums Poly-seal for those wanting one bottle.

hydro556
08-05-2007, 03:22 PM
I wonder what the results would be of mixing a light cutting polish and an LSP?

D
08-05-2007, 03:26 PM
Probably just remove the LSP.

Thejoyofdriving
08-05-2007, 04:15 PM
Probably just remove the LSP. than how does XMT 360 work.