I think I've got the hang of it (KSG application)

[Don M]

After roughly a year of playing & asking questions I think that I have the knack of application/removal for KSG.

While on vacation, I put a coat of Klasse on my car (vacations are for relaxing and this relaxes me). Anyway I found that giving the applicator pad (sponge pad) one or two mists of Megs QD (the basic one, not the Ultimate or anything ... although I will have to try the KSG/UQD 1:6 blend next) and then using a 2 oz spray bottle and spritzing two or three spots directly on the panel and immediately spreading it on the panel made application fairly easy.

I covered the whole car then took a damp/dry (more dry than damp) microfiber (dampen it in water or QD, wring it out, then let it dry in the sun until you're ready to use it). Then once you've given the KSG time to 'set up,' buff off the residue. The slight dampness of the mf will give more 'cut' to the towel and allow the residue to be removed easily.

The result was a completely flawless shine, the SS paint was bright and deep red there were no scratches or swirls to be seen and the car seemed to glow in the sunlight.

I even did the windows and when the bugs hit, there was just the slightest marks and when it rained as I was driving, the marks faded to almost nothing (without wiper use) and when cleaning the windows after the 250 mile drive, they just wiped clean with a damp cloth.

http://archive.meguiarsonline.com/forums/photopost/data/500/tn_SDC10264.JPG


http://archive.meguiarsonline.com/forums/photopost/data/500/tn_2009_3.jpg

[cleanmycorolla]

IMO, if it took as long as it did for you, for me to leaner to apply Klasse, I wouldn't use it. Damp applicator, no over applying, seems there are way easier products to use with 5x the looks. But thats just me....

nice ride though, looking sharp. Wonder what it would look like with more boutique stuff on it....

[Klasse Act]

Well Don it looks like you've got your own way of applying/removing KSG and if that works for you who am I to say otherwise. That said though, KSG is acrylic and needs no time to "set up", its on and off. Just curious, how long did it take you from start to finish to do the Aerio w/ KSG using your method?

[Klasse Act]

IMO, if it took as long as it did for you, for me to leaner to apply Klasse, I wouldn't use it. Damp applicator, no over applying, seems there are way easier products to use with 5x the looks. But thats just me....

nice ride though, looking sharp. Wonder what it would look like with more boutique stuff on it....

Hey Rolla, if you needed some tips on applying KSG you should've dropped me a PM, I would've been happy to help out. Do you have unused KSG you don't use?

As far as how it would look with a more "boutique" product, IMO KSG is a boutique product, its just one that's been around for a while. Its price point is more than OTC products but not high like Fuzion or the like.

I feel the method that was passed onto me by the place I used to get all my products from before I found AG is the BEST way to apply KSG. From start to finish I can have my car done in 45 minutes, no windows w/ KSG but that's just me, for that I would use KAIO.

Input from the both of you, pleaseFeed back please

[cleanmycorolla]

Hey Rolla, if you needed some tips on applying KSG you should've dropped me a PM, I would've been happy to help out. Do you have unused KSG you don't use?

As far as how it would look with a more "boutique" product, IMO KSG is a boutique product, its just one that's been around for a while. Its price point is more than OTC products but not high like Fuzion or the like.

I feel the method that was passed onto me by the place I used to get all my products from before I found AG is the BEST way to apply KSG. From start to finish I can have my car done in 45 minutes, no windows w/ KSG but that's just me, for that I would use KAIO.

Input from the both of you, pleaseFeed back please



Ha, thanks! I'm good with the application, it's just not my thing!

When I said boutique I meant along the lines of a Wolfgang or Pinnacle, just because those products really bring Red to life! Klasse to me has a candied look, that red car would look great with some WGDGPS or the like. :props:

[Klasse Act]

Your right about the "candied" look, some use the term "plastic looking" but your right, certain nubas do seem to bring out more red. I used Fuzion on my buddy's 79' RX7 but its painted the red from the Mazdaspeed Miata/MS6 and 2nd gen MS3's and it came out great!

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[Desertnate]

When I said boutique I meant along the lines of a Wolfgang or Pinnacle, just because those products really bring Red to life! Klasse to me has a candied look, that red car would look great with some WGDGPS or the like. :props:

One place I think Klasse SG excels in appearance is lighter metallic colors. When I've used it on my gray metallic Mazda3 or a silver BMW E46 3-series before that, the look is amazing.

[FUNX650]

•What is the goal of having LSPs on vehicles?
-I'll venture a guess and say:
'It's to have as much of a "sacrificial barrier" on their panel surfaces as possible'.

•With that in mind I'll also venture a guess that:
When:
-You apply/wipe a sacrificial barrier-product (an LSP) to a vehicle's panel...
And:
-Then proceed to immediately wipe it off---"The WOWO Method"...
Thereby:
-Not allowing any of the LSP-products' ingredients to dry/haze;
Then:
-How much of this protective sacrificial barrier-product could possibly be left on the vehicles' surfaces?

•I venture one more guess and say that:
-Even by allowing LSPs to dry/haze---and then "wiping-off"...
-There'll only be somewhere ~ 7 millionths of an inch left behind to act as a sacrificial barrier.

-Then...IMHO...Performing: The WOWO Method will reduce that already infinitesimal amount drastically: Try to visualize less than 7 millionths of an inch thickness!!


Bob

[Klasse Act]

Without having the KSG infront of me right now to verify but IIRC it says to wipe it on and then wipe it off. Its also how I was told by the people I bought it from as well and having used it since 2005 w/o any problems who am I to argue, just sayin';-)

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[FUNX650]

My Klasse SG's label has these directions:

http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/500/image398.jpg (http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/79048)

http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/500/image399.jpg (http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/79049)


But to each their own methods... :props:



Bob

[Rsurfer]

•What is the goal of having LSPs on vehicles?
-I'll venture a guess and say:
'It's to have as much of a "sacrificial barrier" on their panel surfaces as possible'.

•With that in mind I'll also venture a guess that:
When:
-You apply/wipe a sacrificial barrier-product (an LSP) to a vehicle's panel...
And:
-Then proceed to immediately wipe it off---"The WOWO Method"...
Thereby:
-Not allowing any of the LSP-products' ingredients to dry/haze;
Then:
-How much of this protective sacrificial barrier-product could possibly be left on the vehicles' surfaces?

•I venture one more guess and say that:
-Even by allowing LSPs to dry/haze---and then "wiping-off"...
-There'll only be somewhere ~ 7 millionths of an inch left behind to act as a sacrificial barrier.

-Then...IMHO...Performing: The WOWO Method will reduce that already infinitesimal amount drastically: Try to visualize less than 7 millionths of an inch thickness!!


Bob

You can be a Zaino fan and do 20 coats.

[Desertnate]

My Klasse SG's label has these directions:

http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/500/image398.jpg (http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/79048)

http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/500/image399.jpg (http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/79049)


But to each their own methods... :props:



Bob

I'm not sure how old that bottle is, but mine says something similar; do the entire car first and then buff it out. The AIO says to WOWO, but not SG.

[FUNX650]

I'm not sure how old that bottle is, but mine says something similar; do the entire car first and then buff it out. The AIO says to WOWO, but not SG.
Old?
Why those pictures were taken today...on my cell phone...

(pretty good for an old Man, IMO. :laughing: :laughing)...

of the K-HGSG that I purchased just this past year (2013)


Bob

[FUNX650]

You can be a Zaino fan and do 20 coats.
No...You can!!

Bob

[Don M]

All in all, I think that it took between 45 minutes and an hour to put a coat of KSG on the car, that includes cleaning off the dust with a QD and I wasn't in a hurry. It's just me, but I prefer to apply a wax/sealant to the entire car before buffing it off, so that's what I call my "set up' time.

I know that there are carnauba waxes that might give the car a deeper/warmer look and are easier to use, but I prefer the durability of a sealant. My biggest issue with learning the 'Klasse curve' was just how THIN you need it to be and how using a MILDY damp mf makes removal easy and complete ... no smearing, even when the dew starts to fall at night and you look at the car under the street lights,