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Bunky
08-02-2007, 06:39 AM
I was studying up on how to apply wax using a UDM(PC) and watched the videos and I started thinking about how people apply products by hand.

For machine, with any product (polish, wax, cleaner, etc), they want you do do North-South, east-west,etc with 50% overlapping passes for at least 3 rounds. This seems pretty well documented.

However, I never see such a technique well documented for many hand applied products. You usually just see the words like apply evenly, massage, thin coating, small amount of product (small is relative). Should you follow the same idea of overlapping use with an applicator pad including the N-S, E-W with multiple passes.

This kind of information is usually not found on the labels of most products in part because of space. This is especially true of the major OTC brands where they obviously want to avoid a 25 word essay on product application.

So, do you follow a similar technique for hand application as with a PC?

ScottB
08-02-2007, 06:45 AM
I find hand application best, you can control how much product is used and do not waste alot priming pads for even coverage. As for hand coverage, more is not better. I find straight lines following the way wind would flow over the surface is best. A small overlap, like mowing your lawn is usually at that is needed.

Stittville Ed
08-02-2007, 07:00 AM
[quote=killrwheels@autogeek A small overlap, like mowing your lawn is usually at that is needed.[/quote]

Please keep posts on track about detailing, no talk about lawn care :D

HighEndDetail
08-02-2007, 07:10 AM
I find hand application best, you can control how much product is used and do not waste alot priming pads for even coverage. As for hand coverage, more is not better. I find straight lines following the way wind would flow over the surface is best. A small overlap, like mowing your lawn is usually at that is needed.

Killer stated it well

I too apply by hand the wax/sealent.

trhland
08-02-2007, 07:13 AM
Please keep posts on track about detailing, no talk about lawn care :Dya leave the lawn care to me!!!:mad: :D

Bunky
08-02-2007, 07:52 AM
Killer stated it well

I too apply by hand the wax/sealent.

OK. So there is no need for multiple overlapping passes in varying directions like you do with a PC? Or, for applying wax using a PC, do you not need to do this. I know why you do it for polish since you want to get the polish to do it job (breakdown).

RallyMSP
08-02-2007, 09:27 AM
http://www.flatwax.com/images/orly_mr_miyagi.jpg

So Mr Miyagi taught me wrong? no wax on wax off in circular motion? I should do it in straight lines now huh?

ScottB
08-02-2007, 03:30 PM
circles can create swirls and spiderwebbing. Tread lightly ....

klumzypinoy
08-02-2007, 04:25 PM
Hollywood doesn't know the right way of waxing so that's why the wax on wax off was done in circles :p.

Straight lines is what I do. Sometimes when you don't see the wax being applied, there is wax still being put on the paint. I never believed it but it still feels as slick as the portion where u can see the wax being put on.

trhland
08-02-2007, 06:48 PM
i thought circles was the best way to apply wax no? how can you get swirls from siq series 2 theres no abrasives in it. should i start applying in straight lines???

Reddwarf
08-02-2007, 07:40 PM
Logically, it would seem to me that if applying the wax in circles can cause swirls, then using a straight patten could apply straight lines. I can't see how it can make a difference either way.

pt91
08-02-2007, 09:41 PM
I only apply a handful of LSPs by hand. I find it much faster by machine.
I tend to do straight line motions but since I wax in my almost sterile garage with perfectly clean applicators/wax, it probably doesn't matter.

RallyMSP
08-03-2007, 01:03 AM
Logically, it would seem to me that if applying the wax in circles can cause swirls, then using a straight patten could apply straight lines. I can't see how it can make a difference either way.


Maybe straight lines are easier to polish out? I Dunno. Can Mr Miyagi really be wrong?:D

klumzypinoy
08-03-2007, 02:36 AM
Maybe straight lines are easier to polish out? I Dunno. Can Mr Miyagi really be wrong?:D

I don't know =P but I've done circles and straight lines. I just got used to straight lines. My arms get tired from doing so many circles lol.