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hernandez.art13
07-16-2014, 10:16 AM
So I have found out first hand why it would be a great and necessary idea to have a smaller polisher than a 3" setup. So my question is, is there anything out there available for us that don't have an air supply?

I have thought about modifying a machine and sticking a 1" backing plate to accommodate these needs. Any thoughts or ideas on how to do this?

I know Mike posted pictures of what they have available over at Autogeek Headquarter, but I believe it was air powered. So looking for same setup but electrical. Maybe Mike can post up the pictures?

Thanks everyone, :xyxthumbs:
Art

hernandez.art13
07-16-2014, 10:58 AM
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/2314/rupes-5-air-tools-prodbrd-800x468.jpg (http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/78631)

http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/2314/rupes_2_inch.jpg (http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/78633)

http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/2314/Rupes_LD30_1_inch_orbital_sander_0021.jpg (http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/78630)

The only idea I got to was this. I know other companies make adjustable ones, so that's good, but I believe the lowest setting are 10,000 OPM. So would want something that could be set lower if needed.

http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/2314/CAM00301.jpg (http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/78632)

http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/2314/CAM003001.jpg (http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/78635)

It doesn't seem to complicated, someone just needs to come up with an idea or invent the machine.

Mike Phillips
07-16-2014, 11:19 AM
:iagree:

I'd love to have an electric ORBITAL polisher.

I think the issue is either electric motor size and power technology or the heat issues with small sized electric motors. Could be both?

That's why you see all these small tools that are air powered.





Maybe Mike can post up the pictures?

Thanks everyone, :xyxthumbs:
Art


Here's the threads and pictures I have of the Rupes TA50 in action polishing with both 2" and 1" pads....


Here's Frank polishing the A-Pillar on a 1987 Ferrari we buffed out. I've created a number of threads showing the different areas of this car getting detailed but have not created the actual paint buffing thread.

That said here's a shot of the Rupes TA50 in action on the Ferrari.


http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/722/one_inch_pads.jpg

The above picture was taken from this project...

How to wash Ferrari Wheels and Tires (http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/ask-expert-featuring-mike-phillips/81145-how-wash-ferrari-wheels-tires.html)

http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/watermark.php?file=77096





Rupes TA50 Removing RIDS (http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/ask-expert-featuring-mike-phillips/81683-rupes-ta50-removing-rids.html)

http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/watermark.php?file=77374

http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/watermark.php?file=77375

http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/watermark.php?file=77376





Pictures: 1966 Orange Chevy Nova Super Sport Extreme Makeover (http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/pictures-autogeek-s-car-week/80579-pictures-1966-orange-chevy-nova-super-sport-extreme-makeover.html)


Jay, Sherman and Tim testing out the Rupes TA50

http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/2412/1966_Orange_Nova_054.jpg

http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/2412/1966_Orange_Nova_055.jpg

http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/2412/1966_Orange_Nova_056.jpg




Precision Buffing with the Rupes TA50 - It doesn't get any better than this! (http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/ask-expert-featuring-mike-phillips/80164-precision-buffing-rupes-ta50-doesn-t-get-any-better-than.html)

http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/2387/Rupes_TA50_Mini_Polisher_Mike_Phillips_011.jpg


http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/2387/Rupes_TA50_Mini_Polisher_Mike_Phillips_013.jpg

http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/2387/Rupes_TA50_Mini_Polisher_Mike_Phillips_014.jpg





Rupes TA50 Mini Sander - First look... (http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/wet-sanding-cutting-buffing/79166-rupes-ta50-mini-sander-first-look.html)

http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/2366/800_Rupes_TA50_Mini_Sander_002.jpg

http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/2366/800_Rupes_TA50_Mini_Sander_013.jpg

http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/2366/800_Rupes_TA50_Mini_Sander_014.jpg



The below is from this detailing boot camp class...

Pictures: Detailing Classes at Autogeek - May 2014 (http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/pictures-saturday-detailing-101/80096-pictures-detailing-classes-autogeek-may-2014-a.html)


Using the Rupes TA50 with #3000 Trizact to edge a panel on a 1963 Impala SS
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/2410/May_2014_Detailing_Class_022.jpg


You can see the Impala here, it's the white 1963 SS

http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/2410/May_2014_Detailing_Class_001.jpg


:)

kevincwelch
07-16-2014, 11:40 AM
Here you go, Art. :xyxthumbs: Ha! Gotta listen to that audio clip there. :laughing:

http://i1332.photobucket.com/albums/w610/kwelchmail/gg_zps06446975.jpg (http://s1332.photobucket.com/user/kwelchmail/media/gg_zps06446975.jpg.html)

hernandez.art13
07-16-2014, 11:45 AM
Thank You Mike, as always you have all the pictures in stock. :xyxthumbs:

^ I'd love to be able to do all that but electrical and I would be able to all pack it in my car and take it with me when I'm being mobile and not have to carry a small air compressor around.

Also, I am not to sure about the issues of a tool like this. I think it's just demand? Meaning not enough people have wanted or asked for one? :dunno:

Weren't Rotary's designed for 1 job and then got discovered for another job? Until enough people were doing it and an actual tool got made for the job? Like the PC was I think made for wood work, but then detailers got there hands on it and then companies like Flex and Rupes made tools specifically designed for us Detailers?

Also, I've learned that your are more likely to burn paint on a 3"inch BP on a DA vs a 3"inch BP on a Rotary. Seems odd, but have heard this and also learned this first hand.

So here is what I've come across. I've done headlight restoration on my PC using a 3" BP to buff and polish and then I did a headlight restoration job using this: (Meguiar's Heavy Duty Headlight Restoration Kit) Meguiars Heavy Duty Two Step Headlight Restoration Kit, Meguiars G3000, headlight polishing kit, severe headlight polishing kit, how to polish (http://www.autogeek.net/meguiars-hd-headlight-kit.html)

What I discovered that buffing out 3000 sanding marks with my PC and 3"inch BP and a TuFBuf wool pad and compound generated more heat than Meguiar's Heavy Duty Kit and the drill I was using spun a lot faster, but couldn't control the speed, it was just on/off. So I just went with it and when I checked the temperature of the lens. To my surprise it was very minimal. Where as the heat generated with my PC was extremely hot to the touch.

So now I come across this, only thing I see really drawing this machine back for us detailers is if it can or can't be used with a backing plate. Seems like this would be a great idea to do. Just haven't seen in one in person. I am going to try and find out if my local Home Depot sells them and take my BP and see if I can get any ideas putting it on.

and the speed settings are great!

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GFgml6WaLHQ]DEWALT DWE315 Corded Oscillating Multi-Tool - Review - YouTube[/video]

hernandez.art13
07-16-2014, 11:48 AM
Here you go, Art. :xyxthumbs: Ha! Gotta listen to that audio clip there. :laughing:

http://i1332.photobucket.com/albums/w610/kwelchmail/gg_zps06446975.jpg (http://s1332.photobucket.com/user/kwelchmail/media/gg_zps06446975.jpg.html)

Thank You, this is what I was looking for and umm.... what's up with the audio hahahahahahahaa, talk about way off topic.... man that was hilarious lol

kevincwelch
07-16-2014, 11:49 AM
I have a Dremel at home that I use for miscellaneous things, but I came across this right angle attachment for the dremel after you started this thread.

I wonder if you could jury rig this thing to have a backing plate for sanding/polishing instead of a drill bit.

http://i1332.photobucket.com/albums/w610/kwelchmail/dremel1_zpsc47a70f9.jpg (http://s1332.photobucket.com/user/kwelchmail/media/dremel1_zpsc47a70f9.jpg.html)

http://i1332.photobucket.com/albums/w610/kwelchmail/dremel2_zps811d7064.jpg (http://s1332.photobucket.com/user/kwelchmail/media/dremel2_zps811d7064.jpg.html)

hernandez.art13
07-16-2014, 11:50 AM
www.griotsgarage.com/text/ics/orbital-sound.mp3

hahaha, if asked why I bought this then I could say because of the awesome sound it makes. I wonder if this is the actual sound of the machine :laughing:

hernandez.art13
07-16-2014, 11:53 AM
I have a Dremel at home that I use for miscellaneous things, but I came across this right angle attachment for the dremel after you started this thread.

I wonder if you could jury rig this thing to have a backing plate for sanding/polishing instead of a drill bit.

http://i1332.photobucket.com/albums/w610/kwelchmail/dremel1_zpsc47a70f9.jpg (http://s1332.photobucket.com/user/kwelchmail/media/dremel1_zpsc47a70f9.jpg.html)

http://i1332.photobucket.com/albums/w610/kwelchmail/dremel2_zps811d7064.jpg (http://s1332.photobucket.com/user/kwelchmail/media/dremel2_zps811d7064.jpg.html)

How is the thread to the attachment piece? Don't know the name of it..., if it screws on then I don't see why not. The only thing that would scare me using it would be if it was forced rotation and speed settings too.

hernandez.art13
07-16-2014, 12:10 PM
Here you go, Art. :xyxthumbs: Ha! Gotta listen to that audio clip there. :laughing:

http://i1332.photobucket.com/albums/w610/kwelchmail/gg_zps06446975.jpg (http://s1332.photobucket.com/user/kwelchmail/media/gg_zps06446975.jpg.html)

What's going on here??? lol

If you Google it, it comes up, but then I call Griots customer service and they say no we don't have that in stock.

They did ask me if I'm on their website or Autogeek's website... I said, umm no your site lol :rolleyes::p (which was true btw, but didn't tell them I found it from here haha)

oh and get this, polisher is also bluetooth enabled lol and I quote from the site

"Now You Can Polish And Wax Anything, Anytime, Anywhere, With The Latest In Orbital Technology. Battery-Powered, Bluetooth Enabled & Built To Last."

I think someone might have thrown an Easter egg on Richard Griots website lol Here is what an Easter egg is for those of you that don't know:

A secret message or screen buried in an application (http://www.webopedia.com/TERM/A/application.html). Typically, easter eggs are used to display the credits for the development team or to display a humorous message. To see an easter egg, you need to know a special procedure or sequence of keystrokes (http://www.webopedia.com/TERM/K/keystroke.html).

kevincwelch
07-16-2014, 12:14 PM
I think it may have been an April Fool's joke, like they've done before.


April Fools' Prank: Spray-On Sports Car - YouTube

hernandez.art13
07-16-2014, 12:19 PM
I think it may have been an April Fool's joke, like they've done before.

haha, yeah that's what an Easter Egg is too, done a lot in video games. Mortal Kombat did it all the time. I got all excited too lol..., had my Visa card all locked and loaded lol.

It was really funny though..., thanks for it. :props:

Well off to see if the Dewalt idea will work... :buffing:

ducksfan
07-16-2014, 12:26 PM
So now I come across this, only thing I see really drawing this machine back for us detailers is if it can or can't be used with a backing plate. Seems like this would be a great idea to do. Just haven't seen in one in person. I am going to try and find out if my local Home Depot sells them and take my BP and see if I can get any ideas putting it on.

and the speed settings are great!

DEWALT DWE315 Corded Oscillating Multi-Tool - Review - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GFgml6WaLHQ)


I have a Fein multitool (the Cadillac of these tools). No way this would work. The thing vibrates your hands like crazy.

hernandez.art13
07-16-2014, 02:07 PM
So anybody know where I can get a 2" backing plate? I bought some 2 inch pads from BuffDaddy and now I need a backing plate for when my pads arrive. I checked his site and he doesn't seem to sell the 2 inch BP's.

http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/2314/41B7KE5KxfL.jpg (http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/78642)

^ Like so but 2 inches

6supersport7
07-16-2014, 02:16 PM
If you read the griots description, it says it uses unicorn tears and has a flux capacitor, lol. Def, a joke.