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Mike@DedicatedPerfection
06-01-2014, 05:41 AM
Well Geeks I had a bit of time the other day to bring along my pair of FLEX’s for a side by side comparison. I wanted to see how these two machines would operate and handle next to each other as well as check the level of correction each one had to offer. For this test comparison everything was kept identical with the only variance being the tool itself.

The darkest vehicle I could get my hands on was a dark blue metallic Chevrolet van. I cleaned up the test panel and taped it off for some side by side work. The left side was done completely with the PE14 and the right side only the 3401. The correction and polishing step was exactly the same. For correction I used an orange 6.5” Hybrid pad, FG400, and speed 3. For polishing work I used the 6.5” white Hybrid pad, SF4000, and speed 5. Again both sections received the exact same treatment with the only difference being the tool itself. The “Smack Technique” was utilized on both machines.

As for the performance between the two machines side by side utilizing the same products, they were quite similar in that both did a tremendous job at removing the swirls in the paint with the PE14 achieving 10% more correction due to it being a rotary. Both machines finished down extremely well with no discernible difference on this hard GM paint.
As for correction times I did not keep official track of them with a clock. I kept everything the same and the 3401 had no problems keeping up the PE14 due to its forced rotation nature. Both sections were completed in roughly the same time.

When both sections were completed they each received an Eraser wipe down and when I pulled the tape off the entire section received another Eraser wipe down. My LSP of choice was Pinnacle Synergy applied by hand to top off my efforts. All pictures were shot with my Nikon D3200, standard 18-55mm lens with hood, and my Nikon SB-700 speed light with diffuser were the flash was used.
For some more reading on the “Smack Technique”


http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/auto-detailing-university/77155-my-technique-concerning-3401-menzerna-products-hybrid-pads.html (http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/auto-detailing-university/77155-my-technique-concerning-3401-menzerna-products-hybrid-pads.html)
http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/auto-detailing-university/80973-utilizing-smack-technique-pe14.html (http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/auto-detailing-university/80973-utilizing-smack-technique-pe14.html)


The van used for the test.
http://i1289.photobucket.com/albums/b508/123smack/3401vsPE14/7792d799ec4a35f616278e93a0c87dfc_zpsb1cb577c.jpg

The panel being used

http://i1289.photobucket.com/albums/b508/123smack/3401vsPE14/ac6a22ea6e33517f749ef75be9433edc_zpsf6f495a1.jpg

http://i1289.photobucket.com/albums/b508/123smack/3401vsPE14/c13678e0fa66210f04290ae30870019f_zpsb5bceea6.jpg

http://i1289.photobucket.com/albums/b508/123smack/3401vsPE14/e17ec53a89340471f976b3e0f6c22856_zpsca3f3119.jpg

http://i1289.photobucket.com/albums/b508/123smack/3401vsPE14/167f692450c05ea09ad57c2a138cef32_zpsf6f2c862.jpg

http://i1289.photobucket.com/albums/b508/123smack/3401vsPE14/0c38c6027b6652dc89d80340df4d4286_zpsadaa9c80.jpg

http://i1289.photobucket.com/albums/b508/123smack/3401vsPE14/080d6501c9cf497887690f0c7de1875a_zps4cec14ed.jpg

http://i1289.photobucket.com/albums/b508/123smack/3401vsPE14/709692a80865d65b07e2d638bc07d671_zpsf38e1158.jpg

Taped off ready for the comparision

http://i1289.photobucket.com/albums/b508/123smack/3401vsPE14/8a8cc2f749d1db060c0bba7838d904c9_zpse8c1778b.jpg

http://i1289.photobucket.com/albums/b508/123smack/3401vsPE14/2c910bb5e375495b7b482f46f06830d7_zpsaa89e6af.jpg

First up, PE14 on the left

http://i1289.photobucket.com/albums/b508/123smack/3401vsPE14/15e9c0114c11b5f03281dc359df53cf9_zpsa97aacbf.jpg

And the 3401 on the right

http://i1289.photobucket.com/albums/b508/123smack/3401vsPE14/1ad04905744044c0082e3d5d168e140d_zpsfc31a933.jpg

Next up is the polishing step.

http://i1289.photobucket.com/albums/b508/123smack/3401vsPE14/d9479ffe9fcb5cdeb67673d15232ec0c_zps0ef392e5.jpg

Now to check my results

http://i1289.photobucket.com/albums/b508/123smack/3401vsPE14/84ebea68319c5beb2b86b69d57dd9368_zps1c542d13.jpg

http://i1289.photobucket.com/albums/b508/123smack/3401vsPE14/5603d23251e6e7f8f4ec30dde5419bc7_zps030dd287.jpg

:)

Mike@DedicatedPerfection
06-01-2014, 05:48 AM
http://i1289.photobucket.com/albums/b508/123smack/3401vsPE14/27ee2b69b27cb9d15e0817142bf93514_zps6a69f709.jpg

http://i1289.photobucket.com/albums/b508/123smack/3401vsPE14/08c71e1968468c304f235ab8ee392e24_zpsaa15090d.jpg

http://i1289.photobucket.com/albums/b508/123smack/3401vsPE14/1f54cdbdabc2c2795877ae636eeac3d6_zpse0f09db3.jpg

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http://i1289.photobucket.com/albums/b508/123smack/3401vsPE14/a848218a9d036743bdc945f89d04f99b_zpsba53667a.jpg

http://i1289.photobucket.com/albums/b508/123smack/3401vsPE14/c8c35986d7ab238d25ed495edee0099e_zpsa4b506d5.jpg

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http://i1289.photobucket.com/albums/b508/123smack/3401vsPE14/d7c5fcdbef7e631af23344e711aee27c_zpsd6e6b9c5.jpg

http://i1289.photobucket.com/albums/b508/123smack/3401vsPE14/6e50cd9ef0d360cb3099a2e35f435b7b_zps84babd91.jpg

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http://i1289.photobucket.com/albums/b508/123smack/3401vsPE14/5af787af1ccb8802b9cdd0279ef8e209_zps2cfd7f54.jpg

Mike@DedicatedPerfection
06-01-2014, 05:55 AM
And all the afters

http://i1289.photobucket.com/albums/b508/123smack/3401vsPE14/4a097d3c1d15439d21a659ee97a1a7f0_zpsd223f607.jpg

http://i1289.photobucket.com/albums/b508/123smack/3401vsPE14/a1f8ee9c233d05bb66887fcc1e6de8f7_zpscbbbdf46.jpg

http://i1289.photobucket.com/albums/b508/123smack/3401vsPE14/fd629cda57d96b4e1cc486f5a204139a_zpsa57713d4.jpg

http://i1289.photobucket.com/albums/b508/123smack/3401vsPE14/9d5e242bbb07ec002eaf6188e8210f39_zpsed3b17e0.jpg

http://i1289.photobucket.com/albums/b508/123smack/3401vsPE14/b191f35c1b3c6a9cabba78ae90bff08e_zpscd3e7e1a.jpg

http://i1289.photobucket.com/albums/b508/123smack/3401vsPE14/e34da36d0fa433a6fe930be567219b29_zpsbbbf0779.jpg

http://i1289.photobucket.com/albums/b508/123smack/3401vsPE14/93d808668aa14b8c8a8f2eeeba923862_zpsfb92bc7c.jpg

http://i1289.photobucket.com/albums/b508/123smack/3401vsPE14/40b3663cd0971125296cbffcf726ca43_zps772bcbe7.jpg

http://i1289.photobucket.com/albums/b508/123smack/3401vsPE14/b8a0caf79d16d1ea0e5294b0c65e8849_zps19e8bcec.jpg

http://i1289.photobucket.com/albums/b508/123smack/3401vsPE14/b7f5a615d42083ea93cbb01c04aff193_zps2a329d3d.jpg

http://i1289.photobucket.com/albums/b508/123smack/3401vsPE14/1554024e65916ed32425dff20daa9d98_zps283ef48d.jpg

http://i1289.photobucket.com/albums/b508/123smack/3401vsPE14/d90e6a8df7b58a4135240741e3e3e36e_zpsd87760fe.jpg

http://i1289.photobucket.com/albums/b508/123smack/3401vsPE14/fd39dc4478a42a17ce8f6ab8c27adf38_zpsa0c0d411.jpg

http://i1289.photobucket.com/albums/b508/123smack/3401vsPE14/959b68145d314a6b33c3ee23cc1adbb4_zpsc71c9055.jpg

http://i1289.photobucket.com/albums/b508/123smack/3401vsPE14/e6fcb10e3af238ae455442b15cb36cdb_zpseb9637eb.jpg

http://i1289.photobucket.com/albums/b508/123smack/3401vsPE14/091eae2606fc3df802a60e601065ea3f_zpsb0553211.jpg

http://i1289.photobucket.com/albums/b508/123smack/3401vsPE14/6586c35fa05dcb3317f201c38d57dbc5_zps63a8414f.jpg

:)

Mike@DedicatedPerfection
06-01-2014, 05:57 AM
I hope you guys enjoyed this write up and undertaking as well as I did. I will be happy to answer any questions you may have.

Mike

Denis Ware
06-01-2014, 06:10 AM
Great Job. This is what l was looking for in review in both machines because l have the Flex Pe-14 I think works outstanding (good review)

HUMP DIESEL
06-01-2014, 07:49 AM
Proof positive that a rotary when used correctly can achieve tremendous results. The Menz products don't hurt the equation either.

Paul A.
06-01-2014, 08:21 AM
Thank you, smack. Outstanding comparison and display of both machines.

Mike@DedicatedPerfection
06-01-2014, 09:03 AM
Great Job. This is what l was looking for in review in both machines because l have the Flex Pe-14 I think works outstanding (good review)

Thank you sir!

Glad you enjoyed the read.


Proof positive that a rotary when used correctly can achieve tremendous results. The Menz products don't hurt the equation either.

Thanks for the kind compliments Diesel!


Thank you, smack. Outstanding comparison and display of both machines.

Thank you sir!

FrankS
06-01-2014, 09:16 AM
Nice comparison Mike and great pictures. Did you use speed 3 on the PE14 & 3401 for the correction step? Did you also use speed 5 on the PE14 for the polishing step or did you keep it a speed 3?

Mike@DedicatedPerfection
06-01-2014, 09:20 AM
Nice comparison Mike and great pictures. Did you use speed 3 on the PE14 & 3401 for the correction step? Did you also use speed 5 on the PE14 for the polishing step or did you keep it a speed 3?

Thanks Frank!

Everything was performed exactly the same on both machines. Speed 3 for correction and speed 5 for polishing.

HateSwirls
06-01-2014, 09:29 AM
I hope you guys enjoyed this write up and undertaking as well as I did. I will be happy to answer any questions you may have.

Mike

Great write up Mike:dblthumb2:

I've done the same, as you both sides looked amazing , I just prefer using my DeWalt 849x, I get great results faster and easier on my arms.
Step two I use my DA to get that perfect, flawless finish.

You can't go wrong with either machine.

FrankS
06-01-2014, 09:45 AM
Mike, in your opinion, which gave you the smoother or easier buffing experience or were they about the same?

hollerstiltner
06-01-2014, 09:49 AM
I hope you guys enjoyed this write up and undertaking as well as I did. I will be happy to answer any questions you may have.



Mike


Excellent review! Now the most important question is; which did you enjoy using more?

Mike@DedicatedPerfection
06-01-2014, 11:13 AM
Great write up Mike:dblthumb2:

I've done the same, as you both sides looked amazing , I just prefer using my DeWalt 849x, I get great results faster and easier on my arms.
Step two I use my DA to get that perfect, flawless finish.

You can't go wrong with either machine.

Thanks Kevin!

Rotary use for correction and DA for polishing is a sure fire one two punch. :props:


Mike, in your opinion, which gave you the smoother or easier buffing experience or were they about the same?

Well there is zero vibration with the PE when the pad runs true...


Excellent review! Now the most important question is; which did you enjoy using more?

Thank you sir!

I enjoy using either machine equally but the PE14 is pretty sweet!

sproketser
06-01-2014, 11:45 AM
Great comparo again , love to look at your threads .