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zmcgovern45
05-23-2014, 07:37 AM
As most of us know by now, lighting is crucial when doing any type of polishing or correction work.

Aside from the overhead lighting (typically fluorescent) found in many garages and shops, most people rely on some type of spot light or work light to further enhance their ability to spot defects on the vehicle they are working on. Halogen work lights are very common for this application because they are cheap, readily available, and bright.

https://scontent-a-ord.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/t1.0-9/1939620_362578910546901_1623736810_n.jpg
Photo: Halogen work lights being used to show defects while correcting paint

While halogen lights do work well in many cases, they certainly are not perfect. The biggest complaint I have about them is they are incredibly hot... sitting next to a set of 1000W halogen lights for 6+ hours in 80+ degree ambient temps is enough to make you hate the job you're working on. On top of that, halogens often do not do a good job at displaying micromarring or da haze. The warmer color temperature of these bulbs also make it difficult to see defects on brighter colored paints, like reds and blues, therefore I find myself double checking everything with another light source anyways.



Many of us leave an inspection light of sorts nearby for this very reason. Whether it is a brinkmann dual xenon (mine just died, can we please have a moment of silence) or a high powered LED flashlight, most people would agree that these light sources are superior for final inspections as they typically work great at highlighting any fine haze or marring.

https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/t1.0-9/1506970_386657488139043_8840747146762014847_n.jpg
Photo: LED Flash Light used for inspection



With that in mind, I have been searching for the perfect LED spot light/work light for a while now. I recently purchased an LED work light from Home Depot (1720 Lumen) for around $80. I compared this light side by side with my halogens on some very metallic paint, and the LED was hands down superior. No, it was not nearly as bright (not even close!), but it showed WAY more defects than the halogens. It made me wonder why I was even using halogens anymore.

https://scontent-b-ord.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc3/t1.0-9/10259742_392815450856580_710828642702542603_n.jpg
Photo: LED light from Home Depot used to inspect paint



I found this light to be much easier to work around as it did not put off heat, and did not require me to check each spot with my LED flashlight to ensure I was finishing down perfectly..... but with that being said, I still felt that there was room for improvement.



I stumbled upon an older thread on Autopia where the OP (concours.john) created his own LED work light utilizing a stand from a twin halogen setup along with 2 LED spot light assemblies from a local hardware store. This setup, as seen below, seemed to be more along the lines of what I was looking for.

http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/dd437/concoursjohn/LED%20light%20stand/beetleandLEDlight030.jpg
Photo: DIY LED setup from Concours.John (OP on autopiaforums)



With this design in mind, I set out to find an easier way to accomplish a similar setup. Given that I am a photography nerd, I remembered seeing a dual light bulb base setup that would work great for this. I set out to amazon and quickly found what I was looking for, and for only $9.

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51qX-jzCaCL.jpg
Photo: Dual Bulb Base on Amazon



I then searched my local hardware stores to locate some suitable LED spot lights that would fit this base. I was able to find these LED bulbs that are daylight temp (much better than the warm tones of halogens!) and 1400 Lumens each.

http://images.lowes.com/product/converted/017801/017801998665lg.jpg
Photo: LED Spot Light Bulb from Lowes



Now, these bulbs are somewhat pricey at ~$35 each, but considering the single LED from the other hardware store was $80, the price seemed to be a fine deal.




Once I had all of the pieces (light stand (which I already owned), dual bulb mount, and 2 LED bulbs) I assembled the unit and decided to do a bit of testing.

http://i979.photobucket.com/albums/ae273/zmcgovern45/1D912FC0-4AB4-4399-AC23-F50EE8F330A3_zpsaco0lvdr.jpg
Photo: Assembled "DIY Light"



First, I turned just one LED bulb on and compared it with the HD LED fixture. While the HD LED fixture is capable of 1720 lumens and my single LED bulb is only a 1400 lumen bulb, it was clear the single bulb had a MUCH more focused beam of light that lit up the vehicle much better than the "brighter" setup from HD (also notice the color difference between the 2 setups).

http://i979.photobucket.com/albums/ae273/zmcgovern45/8233CC00-FDE8-4CA1-A7EF-7BC85353B361_zps3tamesyv.jpg
Photo: Comparing HD light to 1 bulb DIY Light



I then installed the 2nd bulb into my DIY fixture, and of course, this just made it even better.

http://i979.photobucket.com/albums/ae273/zmcgovern45/0F39BF68-C94F-45E3-BE04-308DA4551EC5_zpshbhlg67c.jpg
Photo: Comparing HD Light to Dual Bulb DIY Light

Note: In these photos it looks like the DIY fixture light is washing out the paint, however that is simply not the case in real life and it is just because the camera cannot capture the extreme dynamic range in these types of photos therefore that entire lit area appears to be overexposed. A closer look at the paint shows that these spot lights are a nice, focused beam of light that work great for this application (also notice my paint still looks great after 1.5 years :dblthumb2: )


http://i979.photobucket.com/albums/ae273/zmcgovern45/E349D8E0-A0F7-402B-A4D9-276EE5411318_zpsrj7ibdfr.jpg
Photo: Showing inspection capabilities of DIY Light




In the end, I spent a little bit more on my "DIY" rig than I did on the single light from Home Depot, but I feel it was well worth the added cost. This light is definitely a step up from the halogens (although those will still have a place, as I believe that checking your work in various light sources is very important!).

http://i979.photobucket.com/albums/ae273/zmcgovern45/67537E9C-2ABF-40EA-9BDD-CE3D1F31647D_zpsb5hjluyr.jpg



Cost Summary
Light Stand: $15
Dual Bulb Base: $9
LED Bulb (par38): $38 (x2)
Total: $100

Over the past 3 years that I have been using my halogen lights, I'd estimate I have purchased ~$50+ in bulbs, so I am really hoping these LED's live up to their life expectancy claims!



Specs
Output: 2800 Lumens (1400/bulb)
Color Temp: 5000k (daylight)
Power Consumption: 23 watts/bulb


So next time you are shopping for a new detailing work light, consider this as a worthy option!

-Zach

Evan.J
05-23-2014, 07:43 AM
Thanks Zach!

Are planning on painting or powder coating the Husky LED silver backing white?

dsg03gt
05-23-2014, 07:43 AM
Very nice Zach. I'm still needing to purchase a setup like this.

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Just02896
05-23-2014, 07:45 AM
Fabulous write up! Perfect timing as well since I've been contemplating swapping out my halogens for LED lighting. I am also sick of working next to such a hot light source and am looking forward to saving on electricity bills! Any chance you could PM me a parts source list, maybe with links?

Setec Astronomy
05-23-2014, 07:52 AM
Maybe I missed it, but where do you get a stand like that from? Is that a photography light stand/tripod?

Also, you mentioned the cost of the halogen bulbs...even if the LED's don't make it to 25000 hours they are probably paying you back in energy usage vs. a 500W halogen bulb.

Anyway, great writeup.

EDIT: Nevermind, I found the photog light stands with the dual bulb base.

Mike Phillips
05-23-2014, 07:54 AM
Nice.

You're right about the halogen work lights creating too much heat, that's the biggest reason I don't use them. I have a set here at the garage but due to the heat and trip hazard, they've been assigned to the back 40.


Thanks for sharing this useful how-to article.



:dblthumb2:

zmcgovern45
05-23-2014, 08:06 AM
Thanks Zach!

Are planning on painting or powder coating the Husky LED silver backing white?
The Husky LED has already been returned to HD.


Very nice Zach. I'm still needing to purchase a setup like this.

Sent from my XT907 using Tapatalk
I've used it to inspect a few cars recently... very impressed by it. :dblthumb2:


Fabulous write up! Perfect timing as well since I've been contemplating swapping out my halogens for LED lighting. I am also sick of working next to such a hot light source and am looking forward to saving on electricity bills! Any chance you could PM me a parts source list, maybe with links?
Thank - I highly recommend an LED setup

Parts List
Light Stand: $15 (Amazon Link (http://www.amazon.com/NEEWER%C2%AE-Photography-Video-Studio-Alluminum/dp/B003UDW8VI/ref=sr_1_12?ie=UTF8&qid=1400849889&sr=8-12&keywords=photography+light+stand))
Dual Bulb Base: $9 (Amazon Link (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00HZUVX8G/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1))
LED Bulb (par38): $38 (x2) (Lowes Link (http://www.lowes.com/pd_150661-75774-LPAR3814005KLEDG5_0__?productId=50107550&Ntt=par+90w+led&pl=1&currentURL=%3FNtt%3Dpar%2B90w%2Bled&facetInfo=))

Don't think PM is required since AG clearly does not sell photography gear or LED spot light bulbs :)


Maybe I missed it, but where do you get a stand like that from? Is that a photography light stand/tripod?

Also, you mentioned the cost of the halogen bulbs...even if the LED's don't make it to 25000 hours they are probably paying you back in energy usage vs. a 500W halogen bulb.

Anyway, great writeup.
Sorry - I tried to add links to the OP, but it had already been more than 20 minutes so I couldn't edit. The stand is a very basic light stand used for photography, I already had several of them laying around, so it made this even easier for me... See my reply above for links... and yeah, the energy savings will be very nice as well :)


Nice.

You're right about the halogen work lights creating too much heat, that's the biggest reason I don't use them. I have a set here at the garage but due to the heat and trip hazard, they've been assigned to the back 40.


Thanks for sharing this useful how-to article.



:dblthumb2:
Thanks for reading, Mike!

eaglefan
05-23-2014, 08:06 AM
Fabulous write up! Perfect timing as well since I've been contemplating swapping out my halogens for LED lighting. I am also sick of working next to such a hot light source and am looking forward to saving on electricity bills! Any chance you could PM me a parts source list, maybe with links?
I 2nd the parts source request! PLEASE!

zmcgovern45
05-23-2014, 08:08 AM
I 2nd the parts source request! PLEASE!

See my reply above :)

c8n
05-23-2014, 08:26 AM
There is a youtube that Larry did with Richard Lin regarding lighting. I thought it was very interesting. Jump to 11:40.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QUk-i-xtXks

Setec Astronomy
05-23-2014, 08:31 AM
Great, thanks for the links, hope they stay up. I was a little confused because you referred to the bulb as a "spotlight" and all I could find were floodlights, but your link cleared that up (there is a difference, most of the LED are floods vs. spots, but I can't find a definition of what the difference is, other than common sense that the spot will be a narrower beam). BTW Home Depot has a Philips 5000K 1300 lumen PAR38 flood, 19.5 watts, $32.

Thanks again for this, I can't believe how easy it is to make this setup.

zmcgovern45
05-23-2014, 09:41 AM
There is a youtube that Larry did with Richard Lin regarding lighting. I thought it was very interesting. Jump to 11:40.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QUk-i-xtXks
Very nice... I have always admired Richard's light setup. They are definitely far superior to any "normal" setup you can purchase. With that being said, they are also VERY expensive!



Great, thanks for the links, hope they stay up. I was a little confused because you referred to the bulb as a "spotlight" and all I could find were floodlights, but your link cleared that up (there is a difference, most of the LED are floods vs. spots, but I can't find a definition of what the difference is, other than common sense that the spot will be a narrower beam). BTW Home Depot has a Philips 5000K 1300 lumen PAR38 flood, 19.5 watts, $32.

Thanks again for this, I can't believe how easy it is to make this setup.
Sorry... spot light, flood light, I used those terms interchangeably in this write up while in my head they truly do mean different things... I apologize for the confusion.

The bulbs are in fact flood light bulbs.

Yup, this setup is very easy... in fact, it is "less assembly required" than most setups purchased from the hardware store.

Two3zz
05-23-2014, 09:44 AM
There is a youtube that Larry did with Richard Lin regarding lighting. I thought it was very interesting. Jump to 11:40.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QUk-i-xtXks


Yes, this is what inspired my DIY Lighting.

zmcgovern45 Big Thank You for sharing!

Setec Astronomy
05-23-2014, 09:47 AM
Sorry... spot light, flood light, I supposed I used those terms interchangeably in this write up while in my head they truly do mean different things... I apologize for the confusion. The bulbs are in fact flood light bulbs.

Yup, this setup is very easy... in fact, it is "less assembly required" than most setups purchased from the hardware store.

No problem, apparently the reason I couldn't find a definition is there isn't one (no standards for this), so the terms probably don't mean much really. If I knew this could be made plug-and-play (without any fab) I would have done it a long time ago--thanks again!

refreshauto
05-23-2014, 10:08 AM
thanks for this write up. i am always looking to improve my lighting, and this is the kind of setup i was looking for