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stilltipping3
05-18-2014, 08:16 PM
Well, its been a while since I put an order in to AG. But this time I changed up my usual Menzerna order. I got 400, 2500, and 4000(instead of 4500). Can any1 tell me what to expect with the 4000? ThanksFeed back please

Levithan9
05-18-2014, 08:29 PM
Yeah...I'm exited too. In fact, I'm so exited, I just ran away from it all !!

The word your looking for is "Excited".

stilltipping3
05-18-2014, 08:31 PM
Yeah...I'm exited too. In fact, I'm so exited, I just ran away from it all !!

The word your looking for is "Excited".

lol:dblthumb2:

Levithan9
05-18-2014, 08:33 PM
Also, fg4000 works like a $5 hooker on 2-for-1 night. She can go a long time.

I work fg4000 for about 2-3 minutes on a setting of 3-4 on a da, and it leaves a super polished surface. You'll like Menzerna polishes.

stilltipping3
05-18-2014, 08:34 PM
Also, fg4000 works like a $5 hooker on 2-for-1 night. She can go a long time.

I work fg4000 for about 2-3 minutes on a setting of 3-4 on a da, and it leaves a super polished surface. You'll like Menzerna polishes.

I have them already but what the diff in 4000 n 4500?

Tato
05-18-2014, 10:33 PM
Never used 4500, but 4000 is my favorite polish.

You can expect it with '2 degrees' more cut than 4500, but the same gloss.

You can expect it to act as an AIO polish for mild / fine defects using either a finishing or a polishing pad.

You can expect it to correct defects using a finishing pad on soft paints.

I run it generally on speed 5 or a bit more on the Flex 3401, using Smack's technique (please, just ask if you need further tips on this).

Here are some threads I have using this polish:

Using gray/black finishing pads and SF4000
http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/show-n-shine/79342-2013-honda-civic-full-detail-pbl-coating-coating-booster.html

Using many colored pads (white, blue, etc) with SF4000.
http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/show-n-shine/80463-2012-corolla-full-detailed-pinnacle-black-label-coating.html

When need to 'step up to even higher cutting pad' while trying to stick with SF4000, I generally prefer to use FG400 on white pad instead of SF4000 on an orange pad.

Being it a very fine polish, you can expect it to cut only on soft paints. For harder paints, you may use it on white pad to follow a compound you used on orange pad or MF pad or Wool pad, as a refinement, a finishing approach.

I always start my test spot with it because if it works, I'm in heaven. It dusts very little to none, offer great lubrication, have a good working time and finish really, really glossy.

You'll like it, I'm all-in on this bet.

Kind Regards.

Just02896
05-18-2014, 10:37 PM
Well, its been a while since I put an order in to AG. But this time I changed up my usual Menzerna order. I got 400, 2500, and 4000(instead of 4500). Can any1 tell me what to expect with the 4000? ThanksFeed back please

This...

http://i1107.photobucket.com/albums/h384/just02896/image_zps220b24f9.jpg (http://s1107.photobucket.com/user/just02896/media/image_zps220b24f9.jpg.html)

stilltipping3
05-19-2014, 05:15 AM
Never used 4500, but 4000 is my favorite polish.

You can expect it with '2 degrees' more cut than 4500, but the same gloss.

You can expect it to act as an AIO polish for mild / fine defects using either a finishing or a polishing pad.

You can expect it to correct defects using a finishing pad on soft paints.

I run it generally on speed 5 or a bit more on the Flex 3401, using Smack's technique (please, just ask if you need further tips on this).

Here are some threads I have using this polish:

Using gray/black finishing pads and SF4000
http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/show-n-shine/79342-2013-honda-civic-full-detail-pbl-coating-coating-booster.html

Using many colored pads (white, blue, etc) with SF4000.
http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/show-n-shine/80463-2012-corolla-full-detailed-pinnacle-black-label-coating.html

When need to 'step up to even higher cutting pad' while trying to stick with SF4000, I generally prefer to use FG400 on white pad instead of SF4000 on an orange pad.

Being it a very fine polish, you can expect it to cut only on soft paints. For harder paints, you may use it on white pad to follow a compound you used on orange pad or MF pad or Wool pad, as a refinement, a finishing approach.

I always start my test spot with it because if it works, I'm in heaven. It dusts very little to none, offer great lubrication, have a good working time and finish really, really glossy.

You'll like it, I'm all-in on this bet.

Kind Regards.

So this can be used as a 1 step ljke 2500 maybe? It must have some bite.

BobbyG
05-19-2014, 05:36 AM
So this can be used as a 1 step ljke 2500 maybe? It must have some bite.

SF-4000 can be used as a 1-step polish and you'll be shocked at how well it does. It does have a decent cut and it finishes up beautifully! Orange and White foam pads are my normal choice when using it and this applies to both me rotary and dual action machines...

SF-4500 is also a nice finishing polish for bumping up the gloss ever so slightly...I use this primarily with a red pad.

Levithan9
05-19-2014, 08:23 AM
This...

http://i1107.photobucket.com/albums/h384/just02896/image_zps220b24f9.jpg (http://s1107.photobucket.com/user/just02896/media/image_zps220b24f9.jpg.html)


As Dr. evil would say....

"Ok...who polishes a mirror? I mean, come on, people. Throw me a freaking bone here."

Tato
05-19-2014, 09:28 AM
So this can be used as a 1 step ljke 2500 maybe? It must have some bite.

Yep, like I said. Just see the threads I've linked above.

However, don't expect it to cut defects on harder paints.

My tip for you to determine if it would be used as 1-step is:

- test the white pad, speed 5, pressure on the head of the polisher to engage abrasives, slow arm speed. 4-6 passes, releasing the pressure on last 2 passes to finish it down.

If this time you feel you would need more speed (like 6), even more arm pressure and even slower arm speed, more than 6 passes, it'll be better for you to step up the product because the task is 'overkilling' to SF4000 to handle.

I say this because being it a finishing polish, you may use it with less pressure and slightly higher arm speed, and even less passes for finishing purposes.

Product is that versatile, but you have to be specific: using to correct fine defects, you should use a 'correction technique', whetter for finishing purposes, you should use a 'finishing technique'.

When you're using it on speed 5, firm pressure and slow arm speed, you're actually taking it to the 'edge' of it's performance, on a correction attempt.

If doing this won't correct like expected, you should give up SF4000 this time and step up to a more 'abrasive' polish.

Of course, the above is not a rule and can present exceptions, please, feel free to ask if you need more guidance on this.

Kind Regards.

JHL88
05-19-2014, 09:38 AM
I bought sf4000 instead of sf4500 and I'm glad I did because I have pretty hard clear but it works really well.

Pureshine
05-19-2014, 10:10 AM
You can't ever go wrong the with their products!