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peterhurcos
05-05-2014, 08:28 PM
How abrasive is a typical glaze? I'm a protect my investment guy more than a detailing hobbyist. My car's paint is in good condition. I want to minimize unnecessary grinding.

The reason I asked is that I put Chemical Guys EZ Creme Glaze on my car for its spring waxing. It looks terrific, and based on past experience the Collinite sticks to it really well. But its pretty clear from the directions that there is some abrasive in it.

As a ballpark proposition, what are we talking about here? Like the Duragloss All In One product? Nufinish? Meguiar's 205?

I should say that I have been told that some of the AIO products have abrasives along the lines of jeweler's rouge, that is, it can practically be disregarded as something that would wear out the clear coat. So using something like that is OK by me. But what about these mysterious glaze products?

jamesboyy
05-05-2014, 08:43 PM
A paint glaze do not have any abrasives in it its like a nutrient lotion in a sense for the paint that will only last maybe a week

swanicyouth
05-05-2014, 08:43 PM
I didn't think there were abrasives in that product, but I could be wrong. My guess is you could polish your paint 30 times with no problems. But, you won't know unless you measure.

I would not worry about it with this product, assuming your using a DA and a foam pad in a correct fashion.

FUNX650
05-05-2014, 08:43 PM
As far as I'm concerned (AFAIC?):

•Meguiar's #07...is #1 on the list of "pure polishes"...
no abrasives whatsoever!!
(If "Kieselguhr" doesn't count, that is)
•3M Imperial Hand Glaze...is #2!!

•Have no experience with Chemical Guys EZ Creme Glaze:
-No comment.


How abrasive is a typical glaze?  


I should say that I have been told that some of the AIO products have abrasives along the lines of jeweler's rouge, that is, it can practically be disregarded as something that would wear out the clear coat.  So using something like that is OK by me.  But what about these mysterious glaze products?
Obtaining a product's MSDS will often reveal the presence (or not) of an abrasive; its type/name/classification; its %.

No sense using mysterious products,
if you don't want to...IMHO!

Bob

Christopher.Brown
05-05-2014, 08:43 PM
Glazes are meant for shine enhancement and defect filling.

Any cut involved is a byproduct of the pad its applied on.

FUNX650
05-05-2014, 09:56 PM
A paint glaze do not have any abrasives in it its like a nutrient lotion in a sense for the paint that will only last maybe a week
Some may have abrasives...(see below)


Obtaining a product's MSDS will often reveal the presence (or not) of an abrasive; its type/name/classification; its %.

Let's take the two glazes I mentioned earlier:


•Meguiar's #07...is #1 on the list of "pure polishes"...
no abrasives whatsoever!!
(If "Kieselguhr" doesn't count, that is)

•3M Imperial Hand Glaze...is #2!!
Meguiar's M07 contains:
-Kieselguhr (Natural Diatomaceous Earth/N.D.E.)
-CAS# 61790-53-2
-@ 4-8% by Weight.
-Used as an inert mild abrasive, for burnishing.

3M IHG contains:
-Aluminum Silicate
-CAS# 66402-68-4
-@ 3-7% by Weight
-Used as a mild abrasive, for burnishing

•Burnishing paint, by abrasion, is:
Synonymous with "shine enhancement".


Bob

hernandez.art13
05-05-2014, 10:02 PM
Some may have abrasives...(see below)

Let's take the two glazes I mentioned earlier:

Meguiar's M07 contains:
-Kieselguhr (Natural Diatomaceous Earth/N.D.E.)
-CAS# 61790-53-2
-@ 4-8% by Weight.
-Used as an inert mild abrasive, for burnishing.

3M IHG contains:
-Aluminum Silicate
-CAS# 66402-68-4
-@ 3-7% by Weight
-Used as a mild abrasive, for burnishing

•Burnishing paint, by abrasion, is:
Synonymous with "shine enhancement".


Bob

Did you just quote yourself?

:laughing:

That's like when I "Like" my own comments on Facebook lol

hernandez.art13
05-05-2014, 10:05 PM
Lp

trekkeruss
05-05-2014, 10:14 PM
I think it is impossible to answer because there is no industry agreement or standard on the use of the word glaze.

hernandez.art13
05-05-2014, 10:23 PM
^ butt text sorry

allenk4
05-05-2014, 10:52 PM
http://www.autopiaforums.com/Todd-Helme/polish-chart.jpg

The attached is the opinion of one man....albeit a very wise man

FUNX650
05-05-2014, 10:53 PM
Did you just quote yourself?

:laughing:
OOOPS...I guess I did!

Bob

FUNX650
05-05-2014, 10:58 PM
Let me repeat that:

OOOPS...I guess I did!

Bob

FUNX650
05-05-2014, 11:04 PM
http://www.autopiaforums.com/Todd-Helme/polish-chart.jpg

So glad to see the two glazes, that I've been using as examples, were in the correct column on this chart!

Bob

allenk4
05-05-2014, 11:19 PM
So glad to see the two glazes, that I've been using as examples, were in the correct column on this chart!

Bob

Depends on who you ask.

I showed the chart to the folks at Meguiar's. They are unwilling to certify the Autopia chart as correct for their offerings. They are also, not willing to provide their own, beyond the labeling already on the bottles.