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gamster
07-19-2007, 02:02 PM
My sizzling shine kit is being delivered today. Shampoo, lotion and paste wax.
I would like to know if anyone would recommened using Megs#21 sealant after the shampoo and lotion and before souveran wax. Or is this over kill?
thx in advance.

Thejoyofdriving
07-19-2007, 02:05 PM
I dont know if souveran will bond to megs waxes, as they usualy contain silicone which i think interfears with bonding. but in any case you should wait about 8hrs before adding another coat of wax, because wax needs time to fully cure.

greg'sgoat
07-19-2007, 02:14 PM
Isn't meg's 21 a sealant? I don't think any wax has a problem bonding to a sealant.

Thejoyofdriving
07-19-2007, 02:16 PM
I am pretty sure silicone oils dont make for a good bonding surface

Driven Auto Detail
07-19-2007, 02:39 PM
Carnauba waxes (ie - souveran included) don't have bonding issues. Sealants are the ones that need a clean surface.

Apply #21, wait 12-24 hours, apply Souveran. Should look incredible!

A1monky
07-19-2007, 02:42 PM
Find someone who has used the megs sealant W/ Souveran.
Or, give it a try yourself. If it doesnt work, try Wolfgang.
Most nubas will bond with any sealant. But, I havent used Megs#21.
And it sounds like no one that has posted so far has eather. (well, maybe mshu 7, sorry did not see his post)
Using a sealant W/ nuba is a great way to step up your protection factor.
Def. not overkill.

Strokin04
07-19-2007, 03:26 PM
I am pretty sure silicone oils dont make for a good bonding surface

I think you are getting your sealants and waxes confused. Sealants are the ones with bonding issues and cure times.

Thejoyofdriving
07-19-2007, 03:32 PM
I think you are getting your sealants and waxes confused. Sealants are the ones with bonding issues and cure times.

I dont think i am, from what i know both sealants and waxes need curing time and they both do not like to bond to sillicone oil.

gamster
07-19-2007, 03:38 PM
I am just after the deep wet look...If Megs #21 will not help accomplish the look I will leave this step out.

Driven Auto Detail
07-19-2007, 03:49 PM
I think majority here wins. Sealants are the ones that need applied to a clean surface and also need to cure. Not the waxes.

Plus, read some of the links to sealants & waxes.

Sealants:
Wolfgang Deep Gloss Paint Sealant delivers a deep, wet, liquid shimmer unlike anything you can imagine. (http://www.autogeek.net/wg5500.html)
DP Premium Surface Shield Paint Sealant Free Bonus! (http://www.autogeek.net/dp-paint-sealant.html)
Klasse High Gloss Sealant Glaze-acrylic formula klasse SG sealant (http://www.autogeek.net/klashiggloss.html)

Waxes:
Pinnacle Souveran Paste Carnauba Wax is Brilliant on Red- Awesome on Black! Souveran is hand poured, one container at a time, and boxed with an (http://www.autogeek.net/pinsouvwax.html)
Pinnacle XMT180 High Gloss Carnauba Paste Wax (http://www.autogeek.net/xmt-180-carnauba-wax.html)
DP Max Wax- Made with pure carnauba wax and advanced polymers. (http://www.autogeek.net/carnauba-car-wax.html)

All 3 sealant pages talk about cure time. None of the wax pages do though.

Strokin04
07-19-2007, 04:01 PM
I dont think i am, from what i know both sealants and waxes need curing time and they both do not like to bond to sillicone oil.

Nevermind, just keep doing whatever works for you then.

cullen2505
07-19-2007, 07:56 PM
I am just after the deep wet look...If Megs #21 will not help accomplish the look I will leave this step out.

If you're not interested in the durability of a sealant (Megs #21) and just want added depth and wetness, try a glaze like Megs #7 or ClearKote's RMG.

ScottB
07-19-2007, 08:28 PM
Clearkote Red Moose and Souveran Paste .... now thats wet !

FMINUS
07-19-2007, 10:21 PM
Clearkote Red Moose and Souveran Paste .... now thats wet !

Will have to try that...