Duragloss - 101/105/671/601 Which one and in which order?

[buzz123]

I read Mike Phillips post regarding AIOs; clean, polish and protect to save time and maximise profit particularly on average Joes DD's and after gauging the customer expectations.

After much research I have settled on Duragloss. I like the sound of DG101 being able to be applied in sunlight, however I will avoid it as much as possible.

I am unsure which ones to get and which order to use them. Also I read about mixing 601 with 105 or 101.

Basically I have a few cars I need to work on soon (for family/friends and hopefully friends of friends of friends etc) and would like to know which products to use and the order to use them in, for:

- Light-medium swirling/light scratches
- Heavily oxidized paintwork
- Well maintained paintwork (minimal swirling)

Just trying to cover majority of paintwork. I would like to remove light swirling if possible, and charge extra for multi step if it's bad swirling.

Also I would like to upsell DG111 if possible, but if you think there is a better suited brand/product I am all ears. I thought about using Klasse HGSG as a finishing sealant.

I hope to place an order as soon as tomorrow. Can't wait to try them myself. My poor car is like a mechanical guinea pig :nomore:

Your thoughts? Feed back please

Thank you :dblthumb2:

[BobbyG]

From the Duragloss product page

Duragloss 101 Polish & Cleaner is what we’d classify as a synthetic cleaner wax. Duragloss PC is a chemical cleaner containing cleaning agents to remove oxidation and fine scratches while forming a durable layer of polymer protection.

Duragloss 671 - No comment

Duragloss 105 Total Performance Polish is a cleaner and polish in one that improves and protects the paint surface for an incredibly durable finish. This product uses micro abrasives that also correct minor finish defects. The tough, synthetic coating stands up to harsh environmental conditions such as pollution, acid rain, intense sun, sap, and bird droppings. The durable finish protects paint for up to one year.

Duragloss 111 Clear Coat Polish is what we would call a paint sealant. It actually has no abrasives in it and therefore does not fit what most modern car care specialists define as polishes. Duragloss Clear Coat Polish is a durable protective polymer coating that produces a wet look shine on all clear coat paint finishes.

Duragloss 601 Polish Bonding Agent is a one of a kind product! Duragloss Polish Bonding Agent serves as “glue” between the paint and a polymer paint sealant in the sense that it encourages a better bond and longer life of the sealant. You can get double the protection and double the length of protection by simply adding one coat of PBA before your last step product.



Mixing 601 with 101, 105, and 111 will increase the durability of any these products. Duragloss 601 acts as a catalyst much like epoxy with a resin and hardener. I prefer to mix them directly on the pad; 4 parts product to 1 part 601 then apply to the finish.

[ski2]

Bobby--this is confusing to me as there is no statement on the DG website that 501 or 105 have any abrasives and I seem to remember Richy stating that he felt any abrasiveness in 501 comes from the pad selected. Perhaps you have updated information which would be welcome news.

[cshamilton]

Woo! Good timing! I just finished some experimenting that I'll post tonight when I get off work. But I must say. Get them all!

[FUNX650]

there is no statement on the DG website that 501 or 105 have any abrasives and

I seem to remember Richy stating that he felt any abrasiveness in 501 comes from the pad selected.
MSDSs for #105 & #501 state they contain:
Polishing Agents...
Questions: Are abrasives polishing-agents? Vice-versa?


http://www.duragloss.com/documents/MSDS%20105,106.pdf
http://www.duragloss.com/documents/MSDS%20501,503.pdf

Bob

[gizzsdad]

Perhaps this note from their Technical Support guy will help. This was in response to similar questions I had posed:


"Thank you for your inquiry. All of these will give you the glossy look and durability you are looking for. The difference in the products is the amount of cleaning agents in each one. Part #111 has the least cleaner in it. This is used for new vehicles or ones that are kept polished regularly and do not need extra cleaning. The 105 and 501 has the most cleaners in them. 501 has a little more than 105. Depending on the condition of the surface, such as oxidation buildup, environmental conditions, etc. Either one of these would take care of these issues. The 601 Bonding agent will work with any of these and will help prolong the durability and protection of the polishes.



Thank you and God Bless,

Jerry, Technical Support"

[ski2]

MSDSs for #105 & #501 state they contain:
Polishing Agents...
Questions: Are abrasives polishing-agents? Vice-versa?


http://www.duragloss.com/documents/MSDS%20105,106.pdf
http://www.duragloss.com/documents/MSDS%20501,503.pdf

Bob

Guess it depends on your definition of "Polishing Agents" While DG has excellent products their nomenclature has always been confusing. They even call their #111 a polish and state that it has no abrasives--- from the DG website "Duragloss CCP (Clear Coat Polish) is a non-abrasive synthetic formula"

[buzz123]

Woo! Good timing! I just finished some experimenting that I'll post tonight when I get off work. But I must say. Get them all!

Good timing indeed! Can't wait to read/see the results :dblthumb2:

Get them all? I am unsure which product (101, 105) to use on which type of paintwork (condition, paint colour) and whether to use 601 with 101 or 105.

DG671 sounds like for light swirl removal/rejuvinate/shine paintwork, but haven't seen too many reviews on it as much as 111 and 105.

I'm also unsure whether DG111 is worth using as I watched a few YouTube videos of people either impressed and not so impressed.

[buzz123]

Guess it depends on your definition of "Polishing Agents" While DG has excellent products their nomenclature has always been confusing. They even call their #111 a polish and state that it has no abrasives--- from the DG website "Duragloss CCP (Clear Coat Polish) is a non-abrasive synthetic formula"

I am finding the DG gear confusing. It would be great if there was a table/chart matching up which DG product for which paintwork condition, like the LC pads chart. I do realise that each paintwork differs, but it would be great to have some clarity and direction in which product to use as a basis.

[autodetailer]

I am finding the DG gear confusing. It would be great if there was a table/chart matching up which DG product for which paintwork condition, like the LC pads chart. I do realise that each paintwork differs, but it would be great to have some clarity and direction in which product to use as a basis.

Agreed. Shopping on Autogeek takes so long just trying to figure out which product I need by reading through descriptions and googleing each. A chart would be nice for so many products.

[BobbyG]

Bobby--this is confusing to me as there is no statement on the DG website that 501 or 105 have any abrasives and I seem to remember Richy stating that he felt any abrasiveness in 501 comes from the pad selected. Perhaps you have updated information which would be welcome news.

Because these products contain polishing agents I view them as containing fine abrasives. Nonabrasive products use chemicals only and I view these as cleaners as they're unable to mechanically alter the finish defect...

I can tell you from personal experience, I see more improvement in the surface finish when using Duragloss #501 then when using Duragloss #105...

This is my approach anyway...

[richy]

Because these products contain polishing agents I view them as containing fine abrasives. Nonabrasive products use chemicals only and I view these as cleaners as they're unable to mechanically alter the finish defect...

I can tell you from personal experience, I see more improvement in the surface finish when using Duragloss #501 then when using Duragloss #105...

This is my approach anyway...

I agree with Bobby. I have done great cleaning of the paint using DG products (501 and Squeaky Clean) but I still submit that any true correction needs to be done with a more substancial product like Megs 105, Menz, etc. I don't want any sealants in my correcting products so I know I am getting true correction. That's another reason I love SC so much. That is my opinion.

[ski2]

Thanks guys!! Basically I feel the same -- 501 and to a lesser extent 105 have "cleaners" in their formulation and I don't feel they offer any real correction. When I want pure cleaning I'll use something like Squeaky Clean and when I want correction I'll use a "Polish" or "Compound"