Tato
04-14-2014, 07:14 PM
Dear AG friends,
This weekend I've accepted to detail a 2001 VW Kombi, I must admit, mainly for the fun... I've agreed with owner to do a 'Shine and Protect', at least for this first time detailing his Kombi.
When it arrived, my 2.5y/o daughter (the one at my avatar) asked me promptly:
'- Dad, why did they bring the bus?'
lol! Only that time I've realized what was the real size of the car I was dealing with. I've tried to divide tasks within days, use 'fast turnaround' products and consistent LSP with easy application in mind, everything without reducing the quality of the work.
This thread is not exactly a show and shine, I intended to do this mainly to show my new favorite product ever, the PBL coating BOOSTER! Being the product that good, I would like to say it to you like you say to me what you think is good.
I've also used what was my favorite product ever before Booster arrive, and that was (still is!) the Menzerna Power Protect Ultra (PP Ultra), basically an AIO.
I've got hundreds of pics, so I've tried to select some that may show what I have in mind.
Objective here is simple: share the use of 2 products I like a lot!
To the Pics!:Picture:
This picture describes greatly the paint condition when it arrived
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/500/medium/k-before.png
This overspray on the rearview mirror adds to the above info:
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/500/k-before-overspray.png (http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/75073)
After a thorough rinse with plain water, I foam the entire car...
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/500/medium/k-foam.png
Then rinse.
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/500/medium/k-rinse.png
Every and any car is detailed here with the same care. We all know that the only thing they need at all is some love...http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/500/k-detail2.png (http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/75076)
I enjoy using those brushes!
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/500/medium/k-detail1.png
I like to foam rinse after them
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/500/medium/k-detail3.png
Then rinse with pressure water
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/500/k-detail4.png (http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/75077)
This picture shows the partial cleaning of the right side of the roof, I was being able to get past the middle from my stand.
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/500/medium/k-roof-partial.png
Now onto the other side...
I like to foam it before using my mitt
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/500/medium/k-wash2.png
Then I go with the mitt over the slickness provided
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/500/medium/k-wash.png
Claying the front with fine nanoskin:
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/500/medium/k-clay1.png
Stepped up to medium grade since contaminants were harsh
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/500/k-clay2.png (http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/75082)
I always try to use plenty of lube and avoid pressure with nanoskin to minimize marring.
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/500/k-clay.png (http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/75075)
Had to use conventional clay to get the last missing overspray spots:
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/500/k-clay3.png (http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/75083)
Finished wash and clay, but sadly saw how a thorough wash and clay is nothing in front of the real condition of the paint.
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/500/medium/k-washed.png
At least I was able to remove 98% of overspray
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/500/medium/k-oversprayafter.png
Having the car washed, clayed and dried, that was enough for day 1. Doesn't look that bad, uh!?
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/500/medium/end-day1.png
Now, to the polishing
I've used this thread as a guide, although this is not a classic car or very old paint, I've extrapolated the knowledge shared by Mike Phillips to take care on this one (worth reading for anyone).
http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/ask-expert-featuring-mike-phillips/25304-secret-removing-oxidation-restoring-show-car-finish-antique-single-stage-paints.html
Everything starts on the test spot. I was willing to use PP Ultra, but needed to test it on some spot to see the outcome. For that, I've started using a black/gray Finishing Flat Pad by Lake Country:
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/500/medium/k-product-selection.png
Brief comment: PP Ultra is a 100% Silicone Free sealing wax with a high gloss effect. It states to remove small surface imperfections, guaranteed hologram free, perfect finish, also a long lasting protection and sealing.
I've used it earlier with white hybrid pad with great success, and it's just as good as it states.
Looking at Menzerna's website, I was able to find out this product has a cut of 2/10 and gloss 10/10 on their scale, putting it on pair with SF4500. A quality fine abrasive polish and a sealing wax by Menzerna couldn't be less than a winner IMO.
To work this product, I use Smack's Technique for Menzerna and Flex 3401 as a foundation base (adapted to reality I'm working on). It works perfect for this product.
(found here: http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/auto-detailing-university/77155-my-technique-concerning-3401-menzerna-products-hybrid-pads.html)
Taped a section on the lateral roof to see how I would deal with 'intricate design':
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/500/test-spot.png (http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/75107)
Here is the result after some passes, residue and tape removal:
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/500/medium/test-spot-tape-removal.png
Same spot, from some distance:
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/500/medium/test-spot-far.png
Another view, just to be sure we were following the right path:
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/500/medium/test-spot-another.png
This is the pad after the test spot:
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/500/k-pad-used.png (http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/75094)
Like I've said, this wasn't a 'Correction' job, just a 'shine and protect'. This way, the test spot results was just right for what I was looking for.
I've had to 'clean the pad on the fly' after every section with a cotton towel. You can see the towel at the bottom of the picture with what was removed from paint.
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/500/medium/k-pad-cleanonthefly.png
Pad clean, add more drops and go back to polish!
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/500/medium/k-pad-addmore.png
For some 'resistant spots', I've stepped up just a bit using a 5" green LC pad and Flex 3401 4 3/8 Backing Plate
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/500/medium/k-padgreen.png
For smaller areas, I've used 4" flat pad on 4" LC backing plate:
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/500/k-pad-small-peasize.png (http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/75103)
Many of this work had to be done by hand, I've used MF applicators with the same Menzerna PP Ultra. It works great and is easy to use by hand.
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/500/medium/k-byhand3.png
Every place not able to be accessed by the polisher...
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/500/medium/k-byhand4.png
Here,
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/500/medium/k-byhand.png
And many other places I couldn't capture on camera while working. Captured some on door handle:
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/500/medium/k-byhand1.png
Notice persistant overspray even after thorough claying... This time I've removed them using the PP Ultra by hand
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/500/medium/k-byhand2.png
Rear polished (both hand and machine)
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/500/medium/k-back-after.png
Always finishing late, this is the end of day 2, washed, clayed, dried, and now AIO-polished car
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/500/medium/k-end-day2.png
Boosting the shine and slickness
Pinnacle Black Label Coating Booster... Love at first sight (or use).
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/500/medium/booster-arrived.png
Above you see the package where it arrived. I was finishing to do the same AIO process (PP Ultra) on a 407 Peugeot (but used a white pad for more cutting that time), and willing to use Souveran Wax to top my work (as I do often). When the box arrived, I've grabbed the booster to test and applied some to Peugeot bumper... Wow!
I couldn't believe how easy was that product to spread and buff. The slickness provided is awesome. Shine increase may be 'psychological', but I'm heavily affected by it!
Shortly, I was spraying and spreading the booster all over the Peugeot, and in some minutes I've finished the whole work in a flawless manner. It's the best spray on product I've heard about and used till today, it'll not smear, and will spread far, and easy.
I have some experience with PBL coatings (I apply them a lot), so using the Booster was 'only natural' (like Max@AG always says!)... The same smell, the way the product look when you spread it on surface, the slickness. It's perfect.
Here's how I'm using it (with a Gold Plush MF Towel, an awesome product indeed):
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/500/medium/booster-intro.png
I spray some 1-2 mists to towel side I'll be using to spread:
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/500/medium/booster-prime.png
Just Spray a fine mist every ~50x50cm area and spread over the whole panel. (I've used ~4 mists for every panel). I also like to spray the panel (spray a mist every 'quarter panel I divide mentally') then go with towel to spread it. It'll spread really easy.
(sorry about folded towel on picture above, it's the only picture I have on this action)
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/500/booster-spreading.png (http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/75119)
to bottom...
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/500/booster-spreading2.png (http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/75108)
Then, flip the towel to the 'fluffy' side, and buff it to a shiny and slick surface:
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/500/booster-flip-towel.png (http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/75115)
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/500/booster-buff.png (http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/75114)
Driver's side Boosted (notice blurry on passenger's glass could not be removed by any polishing method I've tried (as well as Glasswork)).
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/500/medium/booster-instant.png
The statement 'instantly gratification' is so much true with this product...
'Boosted' the shine and slickness all around...
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/500/medium/k-back-after2.png
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/500/medium/k-front4.png
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/500/medium/k-front3.png
License plate installed, ready to leave garage...
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/500/medium/k-ready-to-leave.png
This is the end, while the car was ready for being delivered to owner.
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/500/medium/k-all-done.png
That's it. Hope you enjoy the reading as I enjoyed working on it!
Please, any critics, suggestions, questions, etc, are always, always welcome.
Thank you VERY MUCH for watching,
Kind Regards.
PS: There may be lots of pics and info missing, forgive me about that. I will try to add everything I can if I/you notice something that needs to be expanded.
This weekend I've accepted to detail a 2001 VW Kombi, I must admit, mainly for the fun... I've agreed with owner to do a 'Shine and Protect', at least for this first time detailing his Kombi.
When it arrived, my 2.5y/o daughter (the one at my avatar) asked me promptly:
'- Dad, why did they bring the bus?'
lol! Only that time I've realized what was the real size of the car I was dealing with. I've tried to divide tasks within days, use 'fast turnaround' products and consistent LSP with easy application in mind, everything without reducing the quality of the work.
This thread is not exactly a show and shine, I intended to do this mainly to show my new favorite product ever, the PBL coating BOOSTER! Being the product that good, I would like to say it to you like you say to me what you think is good.
I've also used what was my favorite product ever before Booster arrive, and that was (still is!) the Menzerna Power Protect Ultra (PP Ultra), basically an AIO.
I've got hundreds of pics, so I've tried to select some that may show what I have in mind.
Objective here is simple: share the use of 2 products I like a lot!
To the Pics!:Picture:
This picture describes greatly the paint condition when it arrived
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/500/medium/k-before.png
This overspray on the rearview mirror adds to the above info:
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/500/k-before-overspray.png (http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/75073)
After a thorough rinse with plain water, I foam the entire car...
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/500/medium/k-foam.png
Then rinse.
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/500/medium/k-rinse.png
Every and any car is detailed here with the same care. We all know that the only thing they need at all is some love...http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/500/k-detail2.png (http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/75076)
I enjoy using those brushes!
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/500/medium/k-detail1.png
I like to foam rinse after them
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/500/medium/k-detail3.png
Then rinse with pressure water
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/500/k-detail4.png (http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/75077)
This picture shows the partial cleaning of the right side of the roof, I was being able to get past the middle from my stand.
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/500/medium/k-roof-partial.png
Now onto the other side...
I like to foam it before using my mitt
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/500/medium/k-wash2.png
Then I go with the mitt over the slickness provided
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/500/medium/k-wash.png
Claying the front with fine nanoskin:
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/500/medium/k-clay1.png
Stepped up to medium grade since contaminants were harsh
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/500/k-clay2.png (http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/75082)
I always try to use plenty of lube and avoid pressure with nanoskin to minimize marring.
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/500/k-clay.png (http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/75075)
Had to use conventional clay to get the last missing overspray spots:
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/500/k-clay3.png (http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/75083)
Finished wash and clay, but sadly saw how a thorough wash and clay is nothing in front of the real condition of the paint.
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/500/medium/k-washed.png
At least I was able to remove 98% of overspray
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/500/medium/k-oversprayafter.png
Having the car washed, clayed and dried, that was enough for day 1. Doesn't look that bad, uh!?
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/500/medium/end-day1.png
Now, to the polishing
I've used this thread as a guide, although this is not a classic car or very old paint, I've extrapolated the knowledge shared by Mike Phillips to take care on this one (worth reading for anyone).
http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/ask-expert-featuring-mike-phillips/25304-secret-removing-oxidation-restoring-show-car-finish-antique-single-stage-paints.html
Everything starts on the test spot. I was willing to use PP Ultra, but needed to test it on some spot to see the outcome. For that, I've started using a black/gray Finishing Flat Pad by Lake Country:
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/500/medium/k-product-selection.png
Brief comment: PP Ultra is a 100% Silicone Free sealing wax with a high gloss effect. It states to remove small surface imperfections, guaranteed hologram free, perfect finish, also a long lasting protection and sealing.
I've used it earlier with white hybrid pad with great success, and it's just as good as it states.
Looking at Menzerna's website, I was able to find out this product has a cut of 2/10 and gloss 10/10 on their scale, putting it on pair with SF4500. A quality fine abrasive polish and a sealing wax by Menzerna couldn't be less than a winner IMO.
To work this product, I use Smack's Technique for Menzerna and Flex 3401 as a foundation base (adapted to reality I'm working on). It works perfect for this product.
(found here: http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/auto-detailing-university/77155-my-technique-concerning-3401-menzerna-products-hybrid-pads.html)
Taped a section on the lateral roof to see how I would deal with 'intricate design':
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/500/test-spot.png (http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/75107)
Here is the result after some passes, residue and tape removal:
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/500/medium/test-spot-tape-removal.png
Same spot, from some distance:
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/500/medium/test-spot-far.png
Another view, just to be sure we were following the right path:
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/500/medium/test-spot-another.png
This is the pad after the test spot:
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/500/k-pad-used.png (http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/75094)
Like I've said, this wasn't a 'Correction' job, just a 'shine and protect'. This way, the test spot results was just right for what I was looking for.
I've had to 'clean the pad on the fly' after every section with a cotton towel. You can see the towel at the bottom of the picture with what was removed from paint.
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/500/medium/k-pad-cleanonthefly.png
Pad clean, add more drops and go back to polish!
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/500/medium/k-pad-addmore.png
For some 'resistant spots', I've stepped up just a bit using a 5" green LC pad and Flex 3401 4 3/8 Backing Plate
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/500/medium/k-padgreen.png
For smaller areas, I've used 4" flat pad on 4" LC backing plate:
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/500/k-pad-small-peasize.png (http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/75103)
Many of this work had to be done by hand, I've used MF applicators with the same Menzerna PP Ultra. It works great and is easy to use by hand.
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/500/medium/k-byhand3.png
Every place not able to be accessed by the polisher...
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/500/medium/k-byhand4.png
Here,
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/500/medium/k-byhand.png
And many other places I couldn't capture on camera while working. Captured some on door handle:
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/500/medium/k-byhand1.png
Notice persistant overspray even after thorough claying... This time I've removed them using the PP Ultra by hand
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/500/medium/k-byhand2.png
Rear polished (both hand and machine)
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/500/medium/k-back-after.png
Always finishing late, this is the end of day 2, washed, clayed, dried, and now AIO-polished car
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/500/medium/k-end-day2.png
Boosting the shine and slickness
Pinnacle Black Label Coating Booster... Love at first sight (or use).
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/500/medium/booster-arrived.png
Above you see the package where it arrived. I was finishing to do the same AIO process (PP Ultra) on a 407 Peugeot (but used a white pad for more cutting that time), and willing to use Souveran Wax to top my work (as I do often). When the box arrived, I've grabbed the booster to test and applied some to Peugeot bumper... Wow!
I couldn't believe how easy was that product to spread and buff. The slickness provided is awesome. Shine increase may be 'psychological', but I'm heavily affected by it!
Shortly, I was spraying and spreading the booster all over the Peugeot, and in some minutes I've finished the whole work in a flawless manner. It's the best spray on product I've heard about and used till today, it'll not smear, and will spread far, and easy.
I have some experience with PBL coatings (I apply them a lot), so using the Booster was 'only natural' (like Max@AG always says!)... The same smell, the way the product look when you spread it on surface, the slickness. It's perfect.
Here's how I'm using it (with a Gold Plush MF Towel, an awesome product indeed):
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/500/medium/booster-intro.png
I spray some 1-2 mists to towel side I'll be using to spread:
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/500/medium/booster-prime.png
Just Spray a fine mist every ~50x50cm area and spread over the whole panel. (I've used ~4 mists for every panel). I also like to spray the panel (spray a mist every 'quarter panel I divide mentally') then go with towel to spread it. It'll spread really easy.
(sorry about folded towel on picture above, it's the only picture I have on this action)
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/500/booster-spreading.png (http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/75119)
to bottom...
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/500/booster-spreading2.png (http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/75108)
Then, flip the towel to the 'fluffy' side, and buff it to a shiny and slick surface:
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/500/booster-flip-towel.png (http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/75115)
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/500/booster-buff.png (http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/75114)
Driver's side Boosted (notice blurry on passenger's glass could not be removed by any polishing method I've tried (as well as Glasswork)).
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/500/medium/booster-instant.png
The statement 'instantly gratification' is so much true with this product...
'Boosted' the shine and slickness all around...
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/500/medium/k-back-after2.png
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/500/medium/k-front4.png
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/500/medium/k-front3.png
License plate installed, ready to leave garage...
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/500/medium/k-ready-to-leave.png
This is the end, while the car was ready for being delivered to owner.
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/500/medium/k-all-done.png
That's it. Hope you enjoy the reading as I enjoyed working on it!
Please, any critics, suggestions, questions, etc, are always, always welcome.
Thank you VERY MUCH for watching,
Kind Regards.
PS: There may be lots of pics and info missing, forgive me about that. I will try to add everything I can if I/you notice something that needs to be expanded.