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Tato
04-04-2014, 02:21 PM
Dear friends,

Just recently I got my Hyper Wash gallon and must admit it's now my go to soap when starting full details.

I know I can dilute it more to get a more 'gentle' solution from it, but I'm considering ordering Shampoo Plus gallon for the 'maintenance' work.

Would you think I really need Shampoo Plus or should I stick with hyper wash in lower concentrations?

What are your general thoughts about shampoo plus? Is it a product worth to have?

I've started doing mainly full details, but customers are coming back a lot for maintenance washes. I need to offer them the best, and count on your comments to decide which product would better suit.

Thanks for any comment (you can also talk about Hyper Wash and give some tips on usage as well).

I appreciate any help.

Kind Regards.

cardaddy
04-04-2014, 02:58 PM
Shampoo Plus can be used thick or thin. Yesterday I put an over loaded dilution in my foam cannon and had the thickest stickiest foam ever.

Also, I love Duragloss 901 (it's 902 in the gallon size) for a nice shine afterwards.

End of the day you'll need to figure out what works best, and is the most cost effective for DAILY driven vehicles. No need to buy into the hype of a "boutique shampoo" when a regular old fashion car washing soap can get the job done.

Even though it doesn't sound like much, when you spend an extra 50¢ per chemical that you put into a maintenance wash, that eats into your profit.

MrOneEyedBoh
04-04-2014, 03:35 PM
Duragloss is or seems to be the best bro..

Tato
04-04-2014, 06:47 PM
Hmm, thank you for answers.

I've tried to add Duragloss 902 to my order that is being processed. I hope AG takes enough care for me to add it and ship as soon as possible.

Thank you very much for taking your time helping me,

Let's see how I like this soap.

(I'm worried about AG not being able to send it for me this time, but please, let's 'pray for detailing gods' to help me out).

Kind Regards.

Radarryan
04-04-2014, 09:51 PM
Duragloss is a good shampoo but two things made me not repurchase:

1) The cherry scent. I didn't like it and frankly there are plenty of other scents out there for me to choose from

2) And the more important of the two, the dilution ratio is 1 ounce to 1 gallon. For the price, I have found quite a few other shampoos that produce just as good of a wash with better dilutions, and thus better price per wash. If I were you I would make a spread sheet that takes into account not only price, but also dilution ratio to help guide you. From there, when you find the ones that are best for your desired price range, then make sure to ask the forum for assistance in choosing.

Just wanted to point this out before you bought it. If you're okay with both those, go ahead and I don't think you'll be disappointed.

Tato
04-04-2014, 09:58 PM
Thanks for pointing that out.

Do you have another suggestion? AG store is still sleeping, so I can shoot an email suggesting another soap by the gallon until tomorrow morning.

Thank you in advance,

Kind Regards.

Radarryan
04-04-2014, 10:05 PM
To be honest, probably not... I have different wants (at least I think) than you. I like trying boutique washes and don't really look at the overall price that much. I can do this since I'm not detailing professionally and don't need to look at the bottom line as much.

That being said, I think both Optimum and Ultima have good washes. Optimum says one ounce per gallon but they say that 1/2 ounce per gallon works fine, too, to help stretch the product. I haven't used the Meguiar's car wash that you have asked about. The Duragloss is a good car wash, except for what I've pointed out.

I hate to say it, but a lot of times you just have to try them to see what you like the most. I wish I could add more...

FUNX650
04-04-2014, 10:20 PM
If I were you I would make a spread sheet that takes into account not only price, but also dilution ratio to help guide you. From there, when you find the ones that are best for your desired price range, then make sure to ask the forum for assistance in choosing.
Here's a real nice shampoo spread-sheet:
http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/tricks-tips-techniques/45059-shampoo-dilution-ratios-table.html

Bob

Note:
I like Meguiar's #62!

Tato
04-04-2014, 10:26 PM
Don't worry my friend, I understand your meanings.

Trust me, a gallon of duragloss I'm ordering at AG costed the same of a small bottle of Meguiar's Ultimate wash and wax in Brazil.

I'm sure I'll be able to wash more cars with the gallon of DG than with a small bottle of meguiars lol

I'll have good profits with it. Also, it'll be good to try something different.

I just feel hyper wash lacks in lubricity, so even being more concentrated, I need to add more product to feel the slickness I want.

I want the most slick car wash for maintenance of my customers.

I'm a huge fan of chemical guys soap, but they are not shipping to Brazil anymore (just to distributors), and AG won't sell CG to my country.

That said, I think I'll stick with DG for this time...

One part of me wants it, and another don't. I'll just get rid of doubt after using it.

Thank you for opinions,

Kind Regards.

FUNX650
04-04-2014, 10:31 PM
I want the most slick car wash for maintenance of my customers.

Please see my Note in Post#8.

Bob

Tato
04-04-2014, 10:33 PM
Thanks Bob, for either the link and note above!

I haven't seen your post since I was typing while you wrote down.

I'll take a look at that,

Kind Regards.

KillaCam
04-05-2014, 12:01 AM
I used to use 1 oz per gallon with duragloss car wash and quickly learned all you need is 0.5 oz per gallon making it very economical.
Ultima is good but kills my beading and doesn't seem to ever rinse completely off.

Tato
04-05-2014, 12:14 AM
Thanks for info. Can you tell a bit about slickness of DG 902?

Kind Regards.

Bunky
04-05-2014, 06:28 AM
I used to use 1 oz per gallon with duragloss car wash and quickly learned all you need is 0.5 oz per gallon making it very economical.
Ultima is good but kills my beading and doesn't seem to ever rinse completely off.

I associated the absence of beading immediately after the wash as something added to water spots and never saw an issue when rinsing. I did not notice it as permanent. It does seem to leave something behind..like a glow.

KillaCam
04-05-2014, 11:02 AM
Thanks for info. Can you tell a bit about slickness of DG 902?

Kind Regards.


Very slick. Glides right across the paint smoothly and effortlessly.