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soloz2
03-24-2014, 05:48 PM
Hello,
I just purchased a new WRX and want to keep it looking nice for some time to come. I was considering a clear bra on the front, but they are pretty expensive. I was also thinking that a good coating should help protect not only the front bumper, but the entire car. It would also be less expensive and I could do it myself.

Would one be better than the other? Are there any good coatings that can be applied easily without a garage? My main concern would be dew the following morning. I can plan with the weather for a good time to install, but the next day will usually have dew (gotta love NY)

CRyan
03-24-2014, 06:09 PM
A coating will not prevent bug etching and rock chips (bug etching causes most of the permanent sandpaper feel you get in time). There is a 3M spray-on protectant film that has been reviewed here. Still though, nothing will protect like a clear bra.

From now on, I will always have a clear bra installed on front bumpers that have large flat swaths of painted surfaces - Especially if it is going to be on the interstate/highway more than not. I would recommend one if this is the case with your car.

It can be helpful to look at older cars the same make as yours to see how it has worn with time.

jamesboyy
03-24-2014, 06:15 PM
It depends on you and if you have the money to spend if you do then I would get a paint coating like opti coat pro to apply on the whole car with clear bra installed onto the bumpers and such
but if you don't have the money then its best if you get a paint coating

FUNX650
03-24-2014, 06:42 PM
Regardless of their chemical make-up;
(and with neither product being bullet proof):

-A Coating will provide a "thickness" of:
~ 1.5-3.0 microns (0.08 mils).

-PPF (clear bra) will provide a "thickness" of:
~203 microns (6.0-8.0 mils).

Which "thickness" would you choose
for your purposed action?


Bob

chrislorl
03-24-2014, 07:10 PM
Yes and Yes... Why not do it right and protect your investment.

soloz2
03-24-2014, 07:53 PM
Thanks. Is $400 a good price for a clear bra?

Not a pic of the front, but here is what my car looks like.
http://i1203.photobucket.com/albums/bb393/soloz210/Mobile%20Uploads/th_20140323_192417_zpstnisx04a.jpg (http://s1203.photobucket.com/user/soloz210/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20140323_192417_zpstnisx04a.jpg.html)

attached is another pic showing what the front looks like (not my car)

swanicyouth
03-24-2014, 08:02 PM
$400? You get what you pay for. That's pretty low.

FUNX650
03-24-2014, 08:04 PM
Thanks. Is $400 a good price for a clear bra?

If it's an XPel PPF clear-bra product...then: Yes.
Otherwise: No.

Bob

soloz2
03-24-2014, 08:26 PM
I was quoted 400 for 3M clear bra, partial hood, fender tips and bumper. This is the same guy who tinted my previous car and the sunroof on my wife's Forester XT. He works out of his garage, but does pretty good work.

FUNX650
03-24-2014, 08:35 PM
I was quoted 400 for 3M clear bra, partial hood, fender tips and bumper. This is the same guy who tinted my previous car and the sunroof on my wife's Forester XT. He works out of his garage, but does pretty good work.
Sounds good...

But I would go full hood if I were you.
If not:
The first blemish/paint-chip to the hood will be
exactly 18 1/2" from the front. (Murphy's Law, et al)

Bob

Tato
03-24-2014, 10:20 PM
Sounds good...

But I would go full hood if I were you.
If not:
The first blemish/paint-chip to the hood will be
exactly 18 1/2" from the front. (Murphy's Law, et al)

Bob

One more for full hood. I'm also adept of 'smurf's law', but in this case I think also of aesthetics.... I don't like the half hood bra look, and then the dirty mess it becomes in some time where the bra finishes (a line) on half hood (don't know how to call this, sorry).

By the way, I never saw (personally, at least) a full hood clear bra, only partial (that's mostly why I dislike).

Good luck,

Kind Regards.

FUNX650
03-24-2014, 10:43 PM
One more for full hood.

By the way, I never saw (personally, at least) a full hood clear bra,

Not the best of angles...
But here's a picture of one of my vehicles with
the full hood and front clip clear-bra PPF:

http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/500/StillwaterCarShow2010006.jpg (http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/41880)

Bob

Tato
03-24-2014, 11:53 PM
Beautiful, I would like to see more when possible, if you can of course.

In Brazil (at least in my region) full clear bra is not so common, there are 'two or three' half hood on the streets I'm seeing. Other styles like 'matte black' or any other color, also carbon fiber parts covered are more common at this time.

However, I'm recommending clear to many customers who travels a lot, as soon they switch to a brand new car.

Is this a good recommendation? Have you coated your clear bra?

(off-topic question: Is 'bra' the support women use under breasts? Why they name this product clear bra?)

I'm also afraid of whoever applies it here, once I saw a man installing that 'carbon fiber' look on a hood and it looked very amateur (cutting with knife over the hood, the 'film' was wrapping and glueing on itself hahaha), but finally he managed to place it right.


Is there a long term harm to a panel covered with this? Is the removal really painless? The advantages surpasses the disadvantages?

I appreciate your help,

Kind Regards.

jem7sk
03-25-2014, 05:31 AM
Sounds good...

But I would go full hood if I were you.
If not:
The first blemish/paint-chip to the hood will be
exactly 18 1/2" from the front. (Murphy's Law, et al)

Bob

I have a 2014 subaru impreza with 600 miles. Already have a rock chip up higher on the hood than 20". Wish I would have done something like this right away! I'll know better next time thanks to this forum.

Evan.J
03-25-2014, 06:44 AM
Hello,
I just purchased a new WRX and want to keep it looking nice for some time to come. I was considering a clear bra on the front, but they are pretty expensive. I was also thinking that a good coating should help protect not only the front bumper, but the entire car. It would also be less expensive and I could do it myself.

Would one be better than the other? Are there any good coatings that can be applied easily without a garage? My main concern would be dew the following morning. I can plan with the weather for a good time to install, but the next day will usually have dew (gotta love NY)

If I were you I would do both. The clear bra will protect you from the road rash and debris that will come into contact with the front end. The coating will portect the rest of the vehicle. Additionally I would go wth full hood, full fenders, front bumper, mirrors, and A-pillars.

Here is a full write up I did on an Audi A3 that had clear bra removal along with defects that you should look for that should not in the bra when applied. I compounded, polished and coated the car. Finally, a new bra was put down on the vehicle.
Premier Auto Detailing by Evan: Audi A3 PPF Removal, Full Polish, Opti-Coat & Xpel PPF
(http://http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/show-n-shine/73884-premier-auto-detailing-evan-audi-a3-ppf-removal-full-polish-opti-coat-xpel-ppf.html)

Here are some photos of a 2014 Porsche Cayman S that was done. Full hood, Full fenders, A-Pillars, Full roof, Rockers, Mirrors, Full bumper, Lower rear fenders


2014 Porsche Cayman S
http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee289/thoryamaha919/DSC_0094_zpsaf66fb82.jpg (http://s232.photobucket.com/user/thoryamaha919/media/DSC_0094_zpsaf66fb82.jpg.html)
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