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Kaban
03-10-2014, 05:49 PM
I've used Optimum Hyper Polish on several cars so far as a finishing polish, but have never understood why it is such a difficult polish to remove afterwards?

I've done a couple of Jet black cars recently. One was a super soft Lexus. Today I used it on a jet black Aston Martin with harder paint, but I noticed on both cars the HP residue is very tough to remove.

Other finishing polishes like M205 and Sonax Perfect Finish are a breeze to remove after you're done buffing.

Just wondering what am I doing wrong or is the polish just difficult to remove no matter what?

Tato
03-10-2014, 06:48 PM
Dear,

Never used the polish you're talking about, but I had hard time earlier with other products, that tweaking technique a bit made the same products a breeze to remove.

One example is Uber Compound. I've noticed that not priming the pad the conventional way (but using a fine mist of detailing spray), and using 3-4 Dime drops to start, and then 3-4 pea size to keep moving on, helped very much.

Another point was that I wasn't working the product for it's entire cycle, so trying to remove 'un-worked' polish is harder than when you definitively brake the abrasives down.

So, 'defining a prime the pad technique', use less product and work it for more time (or slightly slower arm speed, or more polisher speed, or more pressure) are my 0.02$.

Maybe you just have to work it differently that you're adapted with M205 or PF.

Hope I've helped,

Kind Regards.

HateSwirls
03-10-2014, 07:03 PM
I used it twice and found it very easy to remove.
Try this, once your done polishing hit it with a light mist of DS and simply wipe it off.

chris11le
03-10-2014, 07:30 PM
Chris from Optimum says a damp microfiber should take off the residue.

Since its a no-fillers no-oils product, using a QD might defeat the purpose.

Ive had a similar issue with a different water based no fillers/oils product (Gtechniq P1). Seems like I had to work it MUCH longer than standard products before it was ready to come off and even then it wasnt the easiest to remove.

I know, it seems completely counter-intuitive....use it on soft paint because it "finishes down nicely" then risk marring the paint having to power off the residue. Thats actually the reason I took my car to a pro, it seemed like I could polish a panel perfectly but the second I tried to remove any leftover residue it would introduce marring.

VP Mark
03-10-2014, 07:46 PM
Sounds like too much product or you are working it improperly. Hyper polish is a breeze to remove most of the time.

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The Critic
03-10-2014, 07:48 PM
What speed were you using?

I've found that at higher speeds, it dries out fairly quickly. In my experience, it works best at speed 4-4.5 on the Rupes 21.

Kaban
03-10-2014, 08:35 PM
Sounds like too much product or you are working it improperly. Hyper polish is a breeze to remove most of the time.

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Definitely not too much product. I have tried many different approaches with this specific product. I am just not liking this product. I don't want to resort to using QD to remove polish residue, that's crazy talk.

Dr Oldz
03-10-2014, 09:51 PM
I always found it super easy to remove. Too much, too little, overworked.... It is just a breeze to remove for me no matter what. Maybe your bottle is old and dried out. Or maybe there is a problem with the towel/towels you are using to remove it

spiralout462
03-10-2014, 10:41 PM
Were the vehicles clayed/decontaminated prior to polishing? How about surface temperatures?

Kaban
03-11-2014, 12:01 AM
I always found it super easy to remove. Too much, too little, overworked.... It is just a breeze to remove for me no matter what. Maybe your bottle is old and dried out. Or maybe there is a problem with the towel/towels you are using to remove it

Maybe I will give it another shot, but I do not see having a different result. I used a brand new towel and it was a major PITA to remove the HP. I tried the same exact thing with several other polishes on the same car and none were difficult to remove.

Were the vehicles clayed/decontaminated prior to polishing? How about surface temperatures?

Absolutely, everything was clayed and decontaminated. That's not the issue, note that I said other polishes were working beautifully on the same exact car(s), the issue was strictly with the HP. All cars are done inside the shop with about 55-65 degree temperature.

Machine is a 3401, pads were either LC white or crimson.

Vegas Transplant
03-11-2014, 07:22 AM
I always found it super easy to remove. Too much, too little, overworked.... It is just a breeze to remove for me no matter what. Maybe your bottle is old and dried out. Or maybe there is a problem with the towel/towels you are using to remove it

+1.

Wes Bremec
03-11-2014, 07:50 AM
Maybe I will give it another shot, but I do not see having a different result. I used a brand new towel and it was a major PITA to remove the HP. I tried the same exact thing with several other polishes on the same car and none were difficult to remove.


Absolutely, everything was clayed and decontaminated. That's not the issue, note that I said other polishes were working beautifully on the same exact car(s), the issue was strictly with the HP. All cars are done inside the shop with about 55-65 degree temperature.

Machine is a 3401, pads were either LC white or crimson.

The flex 3401 is a very beautiful thing but one can forget how fast it breaks down abrasives. Do some experimenting and figure out if potentially you can better your technique to better suit yourself for future usage. Your doing the best you can be happy for that

Lowejackson
03-11-2014, 03:39 PM
For me one of the key reasons for using the Optimum polishes is because they are so easy to remove. I really have no idea what has happened to cause such problems, I have always just given a quick wipe with a damp MF cloth

Wes Bremec
03-12-2014, 11:52 AM
If you have a pc style type da, give that a shot also.