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nicky43
02-24-2014, 11:26 PM
I want to remove the Pinnacle Souveran Wax from my black car before sealing it. What is a good product for easily removing wax. Something I can spray on and wipe off.

I tried Pinnacle Paintrworks Cleansing Lotion but that sucks as you have to basically rub it on like a polish and buff it off and it made my paint hazy. I don't want to resort to using Dawn on my car but I'm not using that cleansing lotion again.

I clayed the car but appearantly according to many forums INCLUDING THIS ONE, Claying the car does or does not remove the wax depending on which poster you believe.

Just02896
02-24-2014, 11:30 PM
I use CG wash clear for stripping LSP before a new wax or sealant. Works well for me.

jamesboyy
02-24-2014, 11:48 PM
+1 for chemical guys citrus wash clear, and generally speaking claying does remove some if not all last step product

Radarryan
02-24-2014, 11:51 PM
A good all purpose cleaner (paint safe, of course) will take the wax off. In fact, there was a thread recently that showcased different common methods that people use to strip wax, and the only one that did it the first time was the APC. The CG soap needed multiple attempts, and so did dawn.

Since you want something that is spray on, wash car and you're done, I think the APC is going to be the way to go. I believe that the thread used purple power or something, but other known paint safe APCs include P21S and Optimum Power Clean (both I've used and think are fantastic.)

Happy detailing!

nicky43
02-25-2014, 12:14 AM
Thanks. Is an APC a regular car wash soap that is used just like a car wash? I wash my car with Pinnacle Bodywork Shampoo but that does not remove wax.

FUNX650
02-25-2014, 12:38 AM
Step 1 Finish Kare Soil & Coating Remover/ Wax & Detail Pre-Cleaner, paint precleaner, paint decontamination system, auto paint cleaner (http://www.autogeek.net/finish-kare-paint-pre-cleaner.html)

Bob

VISITOR
02-25-2014, 02:26 AM
wash like you normally would with a stronger dilution of car wash and also spray each panel with some APC, wash, and then rinse immediately...

jamesboyy
02-25-2014, 02:49 AM
APC stands for all purpose cleaner, no it's not an car wash it's a degreaser, wax stripper, cleaner, etc

geekdout
02-25-2014, 03:46 AM
Depending upon the LSP you will have to play with the dilution ratio of your car soap. Here are some I have used with success.
CG Bug Bugger
CG Citrus Wash Red this one seems to work particularly well for me
CG Citrus Wash and Gloss
Carpro Iron X snow soap
Finish Kare 118 Super Concentrated Soap

you can also try adding some APC to your bucket with your car soap or even a little bit Klasse All in One seems to work too

PiPUK
02-25-2014, 05:17 AM
Do a bit of searching on the topic. I have pushed hard to get the idea of residual surfactant films mimicing LSP stripping and several people have been able to easily replicate my findings to demonstrate that some of the suggestions above simply do not work.

As far as I am concerned, a handwash product, like a shampoo you add to a bucket and dunk your hands into, should not and will not strip a wax or other LSP of any worth. If the product doesn't irritate your skin, it won't have a chance, many which do, still won't strip, simply lay down a film which removes beading and sheeting.

parttimer
02-25-2014, 07:55 AM
black label paint cleaner is super simple as well

dfoxengr
02-25-2014, 08:29 AM
Pipuk, can you confirm apc or klasse aio do strip lsps?

Are you saying something like cg citrus wash wont?

conquistador
02-25-2014, 09:03 AM
Pipuk, can you confirm apc or klasse aio do strip lsps?

Are you saying something like cg citrus wash wont?

Read the post again. They only way to truly strip a LSP is with an abrasive polish or a specified paint cleaner. Neither APC or Klasse AIO fit into those catagories.

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dfoxengr
02-25-2014, 09:18 AM
Sorry, i see nothing in the post referring to polishing.


Do a bit of searching on the topic. I have pushed hard to get the idea of residual surfactant films mimicing LSP stripping and several people have been able to easily replicate my findings to demonstrate that some of the suggestions above simply do not work.

As far as I am concerned, a handwash product, like a shampoo you add to a bucket and dunk your hands into, should not and will not strip a wax or other LSP of any worth. If the product doesn't irritate your skin, it won't have a chance, many which do, still won't strip, simply lay down a film which removes beading and sheeting.

KillaCam
02-25-2014, 09:21 AM
Do a bit of searching on the topic. I have pushed hard to get the idea of residual surfactant films mimicing LSP stripping and several people have been able to easily replicate my findings to demonstrate that some of the suggestions above simply do not work.

As far as I am concerned, a handwash product, like a shampoo you add to a bucket and dunk your hands into, should not and will not strip a wax or other LSP of any worth. If the product doesn't irritate your skin, it won't have a chance, many which do, still won't strip, simply lay down a film which removes beading and sheeting.


Ultima paint guard wash must leave a durable film when I use it because it destroys my beading and it doesn't ever return.