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bonedr
02-06-2014, 03:29 PM
getting ready to use the black label products and trying to do my homework....:buffing:would there be any advantage of putting a coat of wax ie maxx waxx over the black label coating ??

cleanmycorolla
02-06-2014, 05:14 PM
Split thoughts on this, but if it were me and I were using a coating I would never bother with a wax. Just use the coating and enjoy its characteristics and benefits.

Rod
02-06-2014, 05:16 PM
Advantage I dont think. You will indeed change the sheeting and beading as the top product will no longer be the coating but the wax. Perhaps the look will improve but you need to expect a reduced durability.


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hernandez.art13
02-06-2014, 05:20 PM
IMO, wax away... However, you don't want to be abrading the coating away. Meaning if it rubs on the coating, it might be abrading it. So in my experience as I've learned you want to use the least invasive method...

just my 2 pennies

Jrocket
02-06-2014, 05:38 PM
Just use this Pinnacle Black Label Diamond Coating Booster (http://autogeek.commerce-search.net/redirect?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.autogeek.net%2Fcoati ng-booster-extender.html) :xyxthumbs:


It's a Coating Booster for the Coating in the same way you would use a Spray wax over a waxed Vehicle.

This is the product that was designed for the PBL Paint Coating or Surface Coating!!

Tato
02-06-2014, 11:22 PM
We have mixed opinions, but both cases are correct in my point of view.

I've applied wax or sealant over the coating, and as perfect observed by Rod, I've also experienced slightly reduced durability when compared to applying to a prepped clean surface for waxing.

I mean, if a wax is supposed to last '10 washes', it'll 'run off the coating' after 6 washes.

What I've noted is that applying something over the coating almost always improve the look (even more, it's the ultimate shine).

To explain the fact I like applying wax / sealant over Back Label coating I'll rely on the same example cited above:

If a wax is supposed to last 10 washes, after 10 washes you'll be back to 'bare paint'.

If topping the coat with a wax (which may (or not) have reduced durability over the coating) supposed to last 6 washes, after 6 washes we are back to 'COATED surface'.

Water proprieties like beading and sheeting will be more towards the product on top, so generally you will notice when your wax washed out from your coating. It's like using a sacrificial barrier to protect your coating.

If we analyze this way, it's pretty easy to see how well the PAINT will be protected always under the coating, with the coating holding an additional layer of protection, so I don't think topping the coat always as excessive or even unnecessary. Depending on case, that maybe what you need.

Nevertheless, you should use the coating by itself for at least until the first wash after application, so you can see how well it behaves by itself. It has incredible properties like shine and slickness that may impress anyone.

It's difficult to expose my exact point of view, I'm looking for words that I can't find right now.

Last suggestion (Coating Booster) looks like excellent addition, as you will be 'topping the coat' with a product with similar properties of coating, 'boosting' it. It's a product I would like very much to try out.

Please, let us know with what you covered your coating.

Any question, please, you're welcome.

Kind Regards.

custmsprty
02-06-2014, 11:35 PM
getting ready to use the black label products and trying to do my homework....:buffing:would there be any advantage of putting a coat of wax ie maxx waxx over the black label coating ??

This is PBL Diamond Paint Sealant with no other topping. With it looking as good as it does I asked myself, why put anything else on top of it. The beading is insane.
And it attracts way less road dust than having a carnauba on top which is a major plus in my book with a Black car. I have a new favorite sealant :dblthumb2:


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