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Hoytman
01-29-2014, 12:20 PM
Here's a couple shots of the new wax we'll be using...


http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/2241/Mothers_Synthetic_Paste_Wax_001.jpg


http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/2241/Mothers_Synthetic_Paste_Wax_002.jpg


:)

I realize this is a new wax offered by Mothers, but how does it differ from Mothers FX Synwax Paste Wax, Mothers polymer car wax, Mothers waxes, auto wax, paste car wax (http://www.autogeek.net/mothers-fx-synwax-paste-wax.html) if at all ? I see they both contain polishing agents which may, or may not, mean mild abrasives.

forrest@mothers
01-29-2014, 01:08 PM
They're the same product - Mothers brand has a broader reach than FX does, so we rebranded it to reach more folks.

Hoytman
01-29-2014, 01:10 PM
They're the same product - Mothers brand has a broader reach than FX does, so we rebranded it to reach more folks.

Thanks! I thought maybe that's what had taken place. Just wanted confirmation.

FUNX650
01-29-2014, 02:10 PM
They're the same product - Mothers brand has a broader reach than FX does, so we rebranded it to reach more folks.

http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/500/Mothers_California_Gold1.jpg (http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/70874)

Hoytman
01-31-2014, 02:50 PM
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/2241/1959_Iimpala_Red_037.jpg



Mike said these products above are for use with a DA. Are they still body shop safe like the rest of the Professional Line-up of products? Are they entirely different (aside from being DA friendly) from the other (1st photo) compounds and polish?

forrest@mothers
01-31-2014, 03:00 PM
They are the same as our pro products but in 12 oz containers instead of
quarts.

Mike Phillips
01-31-2014, 03:52 PM
Here's the link to the full write-up showing the results from Mothers compounds, polishes and this synthetic wax.

Pictures: 1959 Impala - Mothers Extreme Makeover! (http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/pictures-autogeek-s-car-week/75884-pictures-1959-impala-mothers-extreme-makeover.html)


http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/2241/1959_Iimpala_Red_080.jpg






:)

Hoytman
01-31-2014, 04:08 PM
They are the same as our pro products but in 12 oz containers instead of
quarts.

Same as these two (below) I take it then. I am asking for clarification for myself and perhaps others in the future may ask the same.

Mothers Professional Rubbing Compound, car rubbing compound, compounding polish (http://www.autogeek.net/mothers-rubbing-compound.html)

Mothers Professional Foam Pad Polish, mothers car polish, machine polish, auto polish (http://www.autogeek.net/mothers-foam-pad-polish.html)

Any chance of the other products in that line being offered so more detailers can try them as well without having to buy quarts?

The links above recommend the products for a rotary, which probably yields optimum results, yet with this link Mothers Professional Paint Restoration System (http://www.autogeek.net/mothers-professional-paint-restoration-system.html) it says the products are ideal for use with both a rotary and a DA.

Doesn't really matter I suppose. We all know detailers will experiment anyway, but I do find it interesting that the labels (at least the AG descriptions) are slightly different.

I think it's great that these are offered in smaller sizes. Perhaps more folks will have an opportunity to give Mothers Professional products a try. That's always a plus.

Hoytman
01-31-2014, 04:29 PM
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/2241/Mothers_Synthetic_Paste_Wax_001.jpg

Those new caps are light years better than the flip tops first offered on these products. I kept having issues with the flip tops not closing properly, or better described as, they kept coming open. Not so with the caps in the above picture. Much easier to open, close, and then dispense the products with no worry of a lid staying open and product drying out when you're not around.

Hoytman
01-31-2014, 04:42 PM
Here's the link to the full write-up showing the results from Mothers compounds, polishes and this synthetic wax.

Pictures: 1959 Impala - Mothers Extreme Makeover! (http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/pictures-autogeek-s-car-week/75884-pictures-1959-impala-mothers-extreme-makeover.html)


http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/2241/1959_Iimpala_Red_080.jpg






:)

Wasn't sure to post this in your thread linked above, so I'll ask here in this thread.

How was dusting as compared to M105/M205?

As far as having another go-to duo, which products in this line would you compare with the very popular "M" duo above? I know what Forrest recommended to me in a pm not too long ago, but wanted your input as well.

Caleb@ImpeccableImage
01-31-2014, 05:22 PM
I had virtually zero dusting with the mothers professional products compared to m105 and 205.

To compare with the Megs line I would say Mothers HD Rubbing Compound #81232 or Rubbing Compound #81132 and Mothers Machine Polish #83432

I liked the Mothers products over the traditional Meguiars M105 and M205. I had better work time and zero dusting with the Mothers Products.

Check out my own review here http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/product-reviews/75734-review-mothers-professional-compound-polish.html

Hoytman
02-04-2014, 12:58 PM
When Mike Phillips started the thread http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/ask-expert-featuring-mike-phillips/75886-new-mothers-synthetic-paste-wax.html I had a few questions about the products, so I decided to start my own thread to inquire. The following quotes are from the above link.

What's the difference in this and the FX Synwax? Will it stain trim?


Not sure. I'll let the great Mike P or Forrest answer that for you. I havent tested it yet, however I dont apply wax or sealant to trim ;)


The synthetic wax is designed for darker color cars to give that rich color and depth where as fx synwax is more tailored towards lighter colored paints. That's straight from the chemist mouth that I spoke with over the phone...
It's interesting you recieved this information from a chemist (not doubting you at all) about the new wax considering I also opened this thread by saying and asking the following about the new wax...

I realize this is a new wax offered by Mothers, but how does it differ from Mothers FX Synwax Paste Wax, Mothers polymer car wax, Mothers waxes, auto wax, paste car wax (http://www.autogeek.net/mothers-fx-synwax-paste-wax.html) if at all ? I see they both contain polishing agents which may, or may not, mean mild abrasives.

...and got the reply below.

They're the same product - Mothers brand has a broader reach than FX does, so we rebranded it to reach more folks.

Now, I'm certainly not going to doubt Forrest's comments and I have no reason to believe Papasmurf recieved bad info claiming the two waxes are different, but...

...I am left sort of :confused: and left scratching my head a little. Not that it really matters in the big picture.

forrest@mothers
02-04-2014, 01:03 PM
I think it's semantics. We took 20011 FX SynWax and put it in the California Gold line as part number 05511.

SynWax was formulated for more reflection than dark color enhancement.

It's still the same product but with a different label.

Caleb@ImpeccableImage
02-04-2014, 03:24 PM
I by all means am no Mothers expert. Id believe what Forrest is saying. However when I did call Mothers headquarters I was told what I quoted you by one of there chemists. Oh well guess it doesn't much matter..... Thank you for being polite about your response Hoytman