Epoxy stuck on paint want to go stronger than MS

[new2me]

Bought a used Honda Accord 2007 18,000 miles. After a week or so of ownership, noticed that there is some type of hard glue all down the side of this #######. I got some reducer from the body shop up the street for free (just a little bit) it seems to work a little, but requires much elbow grease and still leaves some behind. The stuff they use is some PPG and really expensive. Anyway I only got a little off and am at my wits end. Goo Gone doesn't touch it. Mineral Spirits will take the smallest strings off, but requires lots of work (ten times the amount of work of the reducer), and I feel like I am tearing up the clear coat getting it off that way (with reducer or MS). Been using an old credit card wrapped in a towel.

So I am ready to pull out the big guns. Yeay or neigh on ACETONE or LACQUER THINNER? Some people says they do it no big deal, others say you'll shoot your eye out kid!

I am looking for something inexpensive and locally available. Yes I searched a lot about this, just want a second opinion. What are my options? This stuff is jack-hammer hard!

I realize most reducers are just acetone, but the PPG stuff has all types of junk in it acetone MEK etc.

You would consider Lacquer thinner stronger than Acetone yes?


http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m109/Sevorg82/car%20detail/IMG_07821.jpg
those aren't scratches its hard glue everywhere all the way down the side

http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m109/Sevorg82/car%20detail/IMG_07811.jpgsorry bad iphone pics, thanks in advance.

btw I love this forum everyone is so cool. I have learned a lot by lurking on here for a couple months. If you contribute give yourself a pat on the back for teaching me.

[jamesboyy]

Why don't you try a heat gun or a steamer and see if you can get it to a gel like form where you can peel it off or scrap with plastic razor if not you may be looking at repainting that section

[new2me]

I already tried heating with a hair dryer and scraping. It didn't get any softer. Didn't phase it. I don't have a steamer. I don't want to get the panel too hot.

[Dr_Pain]

I'll sub to see the solution you find.

Before trying a strong solvent like Acetone or MEK or Lacquer Thinner, I would attempt a good soaking with WD-40. Soak a rag and apply to the area and leave it be for a while. Because it is a vertical surface you may have to be creative to hold the rag but I am sure you can rig something up.

Other possible thing to try would be soaking with gasoline? (never tried myself)

Just my 2 cents!

[runrun411]

Try automotive Goo-Gone.

[cplchris]

go to a local hobby store and buy a bottle of ca glue de-bonder...i would test on the paint un the bottom lip of the rear bumper first to make sure it is safe for the paint.

[thebamboo23]

I'll sub to see the solution you find.

Before trying a strong solvent like Acetone or MEK or Lacquer Thinner, I would attempt a good soaking with WD-40. Soak a rag and apply to the area and leave it be for a while. Because it is a vertical surface you may have to be creative to hold the rag but I am sure you can rig something up.

Other possible thing to try would be soaking with gasoline? (never tried myself)

Just my 2 cents!


soak the middle of the towel and tape the towel on all corners to the panel

[new2me]

Try automotive Goo-Gone.

Already tried this, it had absolutely no effect.

[jamesboyy]

I already tried heating with a hair dryer and scraping. It didn't get any softer. Didn't phase it. I don't have a steamer. I don't want to get the panel too hot.

What you most likely have is epoxy from a bridge or work site on your car but this stuff should work Meguiar's Body Solvent.....good luck

http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/ask-expert-featuring-mike-phillips/69993-help-how-remove-paint.html

[new2me]

Meg's body solvent looks like it is discontinued. It's not listed on their web site. Shows back ordered on auto geek.

[jamesboyy]

Yeah I looked around a bit too it's sold out every where but an alternative would be stoners tarminator, and paint thinner may help but what I would do is tape off the section use the reducer from the auto body shop, and the mineral spirits since you know they work then just replace what ever body color or clear coat that get damage if any

[Shtexas]

If that's marine epoxy it's tough to get rid of. Most solvents won't put a dent in epoxy except for MEK. The problem with mek is how strong and toxic it is.
I had some marine epoxy drip onto my trunk lid in a boat yard once. I had to use mek to remove it. I wet the trunk lid, wiped the epoxy with the mek soaked towel, then thoroughly rinsed the area with hot water. I had to do a light polish on the area afterwards and reapply my lsp.

[FUNX650]

WOW!!
That glue's adhesive has really bonded to your vehicle's paint.
Super Glue-ish type of bonding.

Will be no easy task to remove it without the underlying paint
being affected (damaged) to some extent or another.

I've taken a solvent like Naptha (Zippo lighter fluid) and broken adhesives' bond to paint.
Other petroleum-based solvents (like you want to try) on a soft cloth may do the trick.

Go about it slowly, while being focused on watching the glue/adhesive soften.
Gently wipe. Repeat as necessary.
Hopefully the paint won't soften as well.

Good Luck.


Bob

[PiPUK]

It is a pain to remove for sure. The big issue you have is that the problem paint is likely of comparable durability to the paintwork. Anything that will reliably remove the epoxy is very likely to remove your paint. MEK would likely be a good bet here but I would be extremely cautious as that is one solvent I would never knowingly apply to paintwork.

If you cannot get if softened with some more mundane solvents (acetone possibly but xylene would jump to mind), then I would try mechanical means. Whether that means scraping or sanding, I do not know.

[new2me]

here are some more pictures. I have done a lot more research and have decided that I am going to try some xylene and if that doesn't work, then some acetate. I was also considering some goof off (already tried goo gone). I am just wondering if it is even worth the risk of damaging the paint further, when the car is clean its really hard to notice anyway.http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m109/Sevorg82/car%20detail/IMG_0742.jpghttp://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m109/Sevorg82/car%20detail/IMG_0746.jpghttp://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m109/Sevorg82/car%20detail/IMG_0753.jpgyes that is a scratch above, it looks way worse than it is cause I was touching it with my fingers and now the car is dirty.http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m109/Sevorg82/car%20detail/IMG_0754.jpgignore the haze above car is just dirty.http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m109/Sevorg82/car%20detail/IMG_0755.jpg