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frosty170
01-09-2014, 05:22 PM
first post so I hope this is in the right area. Bought my car new Sept 2012, Black Sonata. The dealer talked me into cilajet what a mistake, sold me on you don't have to wax and it will reduce spider webbing. Bad thing was I bought the car at night. took it back a month later with the problems in the photo, they buffed and waxed, looked good for a month then back to the bad webbing, I just acepted the problem. I'm guessing the wax job made it look fixed. After finding this site and reading I was thinking the paint was never corrected prior to the sealant. The dealer is giving me back my money for the Cilajet less a $100 bucks.

can this paint be corrected ?

Thanks

Dave

Pureshine
01-09-2014, 05:34 PM
Yes it can!

frosty170
01-09-2014, 05:40 PM
Great ....Thanks for replying

Pureshine
01-09-2014, 06:27 PM
Great ....Thanks for replying

Here is pic to make you feel better. This is a car I did last weekend.
http://i1148.photobucket.com/albums/o580/kicku9/Toyota%20Tundra/D9256E60-5585-4755-832E-BC2C6B038BCF_zpsehtyuejw.jpg (http://s1148.photobucket.com/user/kicku9/media/Toyota%20Tundra/D9256E60-5585-4755-832E-BC2C6B038BCF_zpsehtyuejw.jpg.html)

Just02896
01-09-2014, 06:47 PM
Your paint can easily be corrected! Most dealerships aren't educated in correction, nor do they allow their detailers to spend the time needed to correct properly. Their way of "fixing" stuff like this is to apply glaze and kick it out the door! It's pathetic and just plain wrong!

HateSwirls
01-09-2014, 07:15 PM
I've corrected much worst, you're good :)
Buy yourself a bottle of Wolfgang Über Compound, best compound IMHO.
Nothing else can compare, well we have m105 but.......
Some have their problems using the 105.
The Über on the other hand is so darn easy to work with, low dusting , long work time and wipes off in a swipe:)

jankerson
01-09-2014, 07:20 PM
I've corrected much worst, you're good :)
Buy yourself a bottle of Wolfgang Über Compound, best compound IMHO.
Nothing else can compare, well we have m105 but.......
Some have their problems using the 105.
The Über on the other hand is so darn easy to work with, low dusting , long work time and wipes off in a swipe:)

:iagree:

WG UC or M105 will make short work of that without much issue. :xyxthumbs:

Pureshine
01-09-2014, 08:38 PM
I used Menz FG400 in the pic very easy to work wirh. Just need to give it time to break down.

Bates Detailing
01-09-2014, 08:44 PM
Can be corrected for sure. The delearship most likely used a Seal B type product made for dark colored cars and fills the swirl marks beautifully..... a few heavy rains later they are back. The only thing that concerns me in that pic is what looked like a small circular what could be cc failure..... then again it could have been a hardwater spot..... or even one of those angels orbs that randomly appear in peoples photos. Either way if it is cc failure be careful around spots like that :buffing:

frosty170
01-09-2014, 09:03 PM
Thanks everyone, good info. The circular spot is gone the car needed a wash. Now I get to spend the $400 I got back from the dealer..

allenk4
01-09-2014, 09:05 PM
I used Menz FG400 in the pic very easy to work wirh. Just need to give it time to break down.

In your experience how many passes are required to breakdown FG400?

With what machine, pad and pressure?

aim4squirrels
01-09-2014, 09:45 PM
In my limited experience, most DAT polishes should go from a creamy opaque to a clear translucent upon breaking down. Not necessarily completely clear like water or glass, but it's more like a clear matte look.

If it goes to a whitish crust like the coating on a glazed donut and starts to chunk up on you and fling everywhere, you worked it too long and it dried out on you.

OP, if you are using an automatic car wash, or the brush at the local coin op car wash, no coating on earth will stop the swirling.

Pureshine
01-10-2014, 01:30 AM
In your experience how many passes are required to breakdown FG400?

With what machine, pad and pressure?

I have used Meg's MF pads and uber yellow/orange pads. For passes 6-8 but you want to make sure its broken down. Like aim said its starts turning clear.

JKL1031
01-10-2014, 01:34 PM
I've corrected much worst, you're good :)
Buy yourself a bottle of Wolfgang Über Compound, best compound IMHO.
Nothing else can compare, well we have m105 but.......
Some have their problems using the 105.
The Über on the other hand is so darn easy to work with, low dusting , long work time and wipes off in a swipe:)


:iagree:

WG UC or M105 will make short work of that without much issue. :xyxthumbs:


WG swirl remover can tackle this.

wdmaccord
01-10-2014, 04:06 PM
I have used Meg's MF pads and uber yellow/orange pads. For passes 6-8 but you want to make sure its broken down. Like aim said its starts turning clear.

What machine and speed? do you drop the speed for the last couple passes?