whats the ingredient in black wax that makes it black?

[brondondolon]

Hey guys. So as I lay in bed right now I got to thinking. In black colored wax what form of dye is used to make it black? Here is why I ask. I personally like black colored wax on my black truck because it seems to hide scratches until I can get around to buffing them out. On top of that it seems to add more depth to the paint. So being as I have some colinite on the shelf I was thinking of mixing in some carbon dye or something similar and test it on a door panel that Id pick up from a salvage yard. Before I did that though does any one know what form of dye is used to make a black wax? Thanks guys this is just a little experiment. Who knows maybe I might be on to something. :) thanks guys

[Dellinger]

I believe the 'darkening' effect is strongly linked to the "oils" included in a particular LSP mix. If we are speaking along the lines of Megs. Black Wax, their 'trade secret' oils are present and aid in darkening colors with some filling tendencies.

[BlkHemiLTD]

I think hes specifically talking about the color of the wax, why its black and if that has to do with the effect he gets.

[PiPUK]

There are several possibilities, could be nigrosine spirit, it would be one of the first ones a formulator would try. It could also be that one of the waxes is black, there is a lot more to waxes than just carnauba.

To be honest, colours in waxes is an interesting topic. Yes, it means there is more colour there to reflect that wavelength of light. But it also means that there is more light absorbed so potentially less light getting to your eyes. If this happens in the wax and at the wasx/surface interface, you might find the colour stronger but the actual brilliance decreased. If it happens at the air/wax interface, you are now decreasing level of gloss. So I must admit I question the benefits of coloured waxes on most vehicles. All that said, for the same reasons that coloured waxes may not suit a regular finish, they probably really suit matt finishes - the colour will absorb more light so you get (relatively) more of the colour you want but less overall intensity.

[aim4squirrels]

What are the ingredients on a can of shoe polish?

[custmsprty]

In Blackfire Black Ice it's the Montan Wax

Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/####/Montan_wax)

[FUNX650]

What are the ingredients on a can of shoe polish?
Kiwis?

Bob

[Klasse Act]

Its Black dye #7......................J/K!

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[FUNX650]

What are the ingredients on a can of shoe polish?
A lot of Black Shoe Polishes use Carbon Black.

Bob

[GenesisCoupe]

Not sure but i agree with the OP that it hides minor scratches, blemishes on black paint. The Meguire's White Wax, which is not really a wax made a white CLS 550 i was working on look great!

The Meguire's Black Wax is actually gray in color.

[aim4squirrels]

A lot of Black Shoe Polishes use Carbon Black.

Bob

Tis' a wax, and treats a surface more delicate than paint.

[brondondolon]

thanks for the replies guys. the only two black waxes ive used were megs black wax which was grey and turtle wax black box which is black as coal and kinda smells like it too. After i posted this last night it got me thinking. Most of us can agree that a color wax that matches our paint will hide minor scratches for the mean time. I really want to give this a shot with the black and test different "dyes". In the end what if it became an actual product? Im thinking an eye drop sized bottle that would come in various colors to match a persons vehicle. Do you guys think it would be worth it?

[FUNX650]

I really want to give this a shot with the black and test different "dyes".

Im thinking an eye drop sized bottle that would come in various colors to match a persons vehicle.
I, for one, will not entertain any notions of stopping you from reaching this goal.



I really want to give this a shot with the black and test different "dyes".

Do you guys think it would be worth it?
IMHO...It's:
If you think that the dyes/dyes chemicals will somehow become commingled/blended with any wax's already
formulated/blended chemicals...and then become a viable LSP product for your intended putposes...
I say keep an accurate research-journal of the outcomes, and let us know the results.



In the end what if it became an actual product?
You may have a zillion dollar idea on your hands!! :xyxthumbs:

:)

Bob

[HateSwirls]

I don't know if it has dye or not the my Meg's Black Wax worked really good, it has fillers that does cover/ hide imperfections.
A time saver when I don't have time the do it the correct way.
It's more gray than black.

[brondondolon]

well i just went through my laundry room and found a bottle of rit fabric dye in black. Its not what i planed on using but hell until i figure what would be the best approach for this its a start and best part is my sisters black Mercedes slk has never been buffed so it has TONS of scratches in it and she wont be using the car till spring due to all the snow making it a perfect candidate. lol i promised id detail it if she let me use it as a test car. Ill test it out and post pics soon as i get them regardless of the out come for this first trial. :)

My problem is, say this turns out to be a great idea. I have no idea how to get it from my head to the consumer. I guess i could do a "po mans patent" and propose the idea to a company like chemical guys? idk.