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adanmtxt1
11-09-2013, 08:21 PM
My old Audi had smooth wheel well liners which didn't accumulate debris and were extremely easy to clean. Not so with my W204. Mercedes-Benz decided to use this fuzzy fabric-like material to which leaves, dirt, and other material seem to stick like glue. I literally could not get them clean today.


What are the implications of removing the liners? Could I remove them and simply clean the interior side of the fenders and any componentry directly? Whatever's under there would have to cope with salt, snow, and grime associated with Chicago weather, but I could protect that with some polymer sealants or other coatings.

Harry Da Hamster
11-09-2013, 08:33 PM
My experience with the felt (?) type liners is that they're easier to clean and don't need to be dressed. I took my ride off-roading in mud and the liners cleaned easily with a couple swipes with a fender brush.

SYMAWD
11-09-2013, 08:59 PM
I find it's best to go over them dry with a somewhat stiff bristled brush while they are dry. A lot of manufacturers use them now and they suck to clean.

I wouldn't remove them from the car though. They use this material for better sound deadening.

Daviddear30
11-09-2013, 09:00 PM
Can you post pics? I'm curious to see these. I've never had a car with them :-)

JHL88
11-09-2013, 09:04 PM
I don't like them because they don't have a "clean" look to them like the smooth liners do.

spiralout462
11-09-2013, 09:15 PM
My wifes Camry has them. The easiest/most thorough way I have found to clean them is with a pressure washer. At first I didn't like them but now I do. I find them easier to clean and keep clean than plastic liners.

SYMAWD
11-09-2013, 10:00 PM
Can you post pics? I'm curious to see these. I've never had a car with them :-)

This is the only pic I have of them on my Optima. Here they were after Hurricane Sandy and why I hate them. Leaves love to stick to them.

http://i1014.photobucket.com/albums/af270/SYMAWD/IMAG0500.jpg

BrianMcLeod
11-09-2013, 10:43 PM
They are to make the car more quiet. Let me know how you clean the I have some customers that have the same

Kengo123
11-10-2013, 12:17 AM
This is when I find it necessary to have a pressure washer. Also in engine bays

Harry Da Hamster
11-10-2013, 12:54 PM
They are to make the car more quiet. Let me know how you clean the I have some customers that have the same

They seem to catch more debris but it also seems to clean a lot easier also... As weird as that sounds. With the picture above, I'm sure a quick spray with APC, couple strokes with a brush, and a spray down took everything off.

SYMAWD
11-10-2013, 01:00 PM
They seem to catch more debris but it also seems to clean a lot easier also... As weird as that sounds. With the picture above, I'm sure a quick spray with APC, couple strokes with a brush, and a spray down took everything off.
Yes, most of it came out but there was still some left behind that was difficult to remove.

Harry Da Hamster
11-10-2013, 01:05 PM
Yes, most of it came out but there was still some left behind that was difficult to remove.

In all fairness, plastic wheel well liners probably would've looked just as bad. You drove thru an area blown up by a hurricane for Christ sakes. But I'm sticking to my opinion that they clean up a lot easier, especially with debris that sticks like mud and clay. I'm on my third car with felt fender liners.

Vegas Transplant
11-10-2013, 01:09 PM
These pics are what was left behind on a monthly maintenance garage queen Audi in Maryland. Wheels and wells were manually washed/hose rinsed. I noticed that it was taking forever to rinse clean.

Hooked up the pressure washer. Notice the stream of dirt (pavement) rinsing out using pressure.


http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/500/fuzzy_liner_re3.png (http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/65991)

http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/500/fuzzy_liner_re1.png (http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/65990)


http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/500/fuzzy_liner_re2.png (http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/65989)


Would the customer have known that this would have been left behind?
I think not as it was deep into the fabric.

ken tuep
11-10-2013, 01:24 PM
My pressure washer works well. They just require a lot of time to rinse thoroughly.

I spray them with purple power, dwell a couple minutes and start spraying. Like Vegas said, they hold a lot of dirt.

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SYMAWD
11-10-2013, 01:41 PM
In all fairness, plastic wheel well liners probably would've looked just as bad. You drove thru an area blown up by a hurricane for Christ sakes. But I'm sticking to my opinion that they clean up a lot easier, especially with debris that sticks like mud and clay. I'm on my third car with felt fender liners.

Ok, I personally find plastic ones easier to clean and my other car with plastic liners had nothing caught in there driving through the same stuff.

And here is a picture taken the morning after the storm. Probably comparable to a fall day for some people.
http://i1014.photobucket.com/albums/af270/SYMAWD/IMAG0499.jpg