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allenk4
10-04-2013, 10:36 AM
Optimum Opti-coat

"Optimum Opti-Coat 2.0 uses a resin technology that forms a permanent bond to paint and cures, just like an extra layer of clear coat."

Optimum Opti-Coat 2.0 Permanent Paint Coating (http://www.autogeek.net/optimum-opti-coat.html)

That "extra layer of clear coat" would theoretically prolong the effective life of the factory clearcoat, so that's a good thing.


GTechniq C1

"The sub-micron crystalline film formed by Gtechniq C1 Crystal Lacquer is rock hard, which helps to prevent marring and wash-induced swirl marks. Gtechniq extensively tested Gtechniq C1 Crystal Lacquer against other waxes and sealants and found 50% less marring on C1 treated surfaces."

GTechniq C1 Crystal Lacquer (http://www.autogeek.net/gtechniq-c1-crystal-lacquer.html)


Is GTechniq using cleaver wording by stating that they tested C1 against other waxes and sealants, instead of testing against other "Coatings", or am I reading too much into it?


The idea of a permanent coating like Opti-Coat is great, but I would trade longevity for swirl protection.

Dr_Pain
10-04-2013, 10:45 AM
Actually, as a general statement of purpose, all coating provide some added protection to marring and scratches but this needs to be further qualified that it is in comparison to CERTAIN clears (much better compared to the infamous black Porsche paint, but similar or lesser than a custom german ceramic clear)

OC 2.0, Gtechniq, 22ple, CQuartz, DP's coating etc... unfortunately have never truly been tested or compared for scratch resistance. On the other hand, the claims and the reviews so far do tend to substantiate the OC "permanent" claims and the 2 years of semi-permanent products like CQuartz.

Just to add one more component to add to your dilemna is the ease of application.... I'll let you research a little on that.

P.S. The only test I have seen so far regarding scratch resistance was CQuartz Finest, but it only compared the product and bare clear. I am sure you can google the video.

allenk4
10-04-2013, 11:16 AM
The only thing I found was this comparison:

*UPDATED Incredible Detail - G|Techniq C1 Swirl Resistance Test : DB9 Very Soft Paint - Detailing World (http://www.detailingworld.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=205427)

swanicyouth
10-04-2013, 11:41 AM
The only thing I found was this comparison:

*UPDATED Incredible Detail - G|Techniq C1 Swirl Resistance Test : DB9 Very Soft Paint - Detailing World (http://www.detailingworld.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=205427)

That is an awesome thread and seems to answer your question. No doubt a coating can help. But, keep in mind many "close to perfect" looking cars have very light marring that just can't be seen. You can look at a car all day in the sun and it looks perfect, and then go to the gas station at night under their fluorescent lights and see some marring.

Other colors just generally hide marring well, often to the point light marring is impossible to see. So, my point is, if you have a color like Jett Black, it's going to show even the finest marring coating or not. Although, a coating can help minimize it.

People say BMW Jett Black is crazy soft and scratches so easy. I don't believe that. When I was at the factory in Spartanburg SC I was at the paint area and asked the guide (who was also a worker and quite knowledgable) if all the cars paint there get the same clear coat. He said yes.

He further went on to explain, certain colors (white and red if I recall) do get a different primer coat because it can affect the appearance of the color, but all get the same clear coat.

So, my question is, if you have 2 BMW X6s, one in silver and one in Jett Black, the clear coats are equally as soft. The silver BMW marrs just as easy as the Jett Black one. The thing is, Jett Black just shows that marring to the human eye much easier. It's not "softer". The color (JB or silver) has nothing to do with how soft the clear coat is.

I'm only bringing this up because if you have a car that shows every defect (like a JB BMW) even the HARDEST coating won't eliminate your marring issue 100%, because even the finest marring will show. That being said, and as I believe the link proves with the Astin Martin, it can certainly help a lot.

allenk4
10-04-2013, 11:43 AM
I just changed my CART from Opt-Coat to GTechniq C1

JSou
10-04-2013, 11:52 AM
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wIwog_VYoYs]Wolfs Hard Body | Anti Scratch Test - YouTube[/video]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fEvsPM2ECz8]Hard Body scratch resistance test - YouTube[/video]


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vw6c_GMX97s

FUNX650
10-04-2013, 02:15 PM
OptiCoat underwent scratch resistance testing here: http://www.optimumcarcare.com.au/XC3166CoatingTesting.pdf

More information found here:
http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/auto-detailing-101/56906-any-major-differences-b-t-these-hybrid-coatings-10.html

And here:
http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/auto-detailing-101/56906-any-major-differences-b-t-these-hybrid-coatings-11.html

(Posts #'s 94-103)


:)

Bob

allenk4
10-04-2013, 02:30 PM
Is banging a plastic Bic lighter against the paint really a test of scratch resistance?

FUNX650
10-04-2013, 02:36 PM
Is banging a plastic Bic lighter against the paint really a test of scratch resistance?
Surely you're not referring to ASTM F-400!!

:eek:

Bob

allenk4
10-04-2013, 02:59 PM
ASTM F-400 is the test for lighters

You might have been thinking of ASTM D7027 - 05e1