When to say yes to wet sanding

[Attn2Detailz]

Hey everyone I would like some input please. So the customers car is a '99 Civic in for paint correction and engine detail.

Here is the car after claying twice:
https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/1269212_503189073111454_2114898755_o.jpg


I tried out Mothers new Professional Paint Restoration System and after two passes with each compound here is the 50/50.
https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/1039680_503245889772439_716265033_o.jpg


Finished hood with just compound applied:https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/1268653_505620552868306_140282602_o.jpg


Well this emerged after the clarity was retored, it's smooth to the touch and looks like bird feet scratches. The owner said the Civic sits outside but he is cleaning a spot out in the garage to start keeping her inside when I am done. https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/1272015_505621199534908_861098892_o.jpg


Is this hood a wet sand candidate since the marks are scattered all over. I do have Megs 105/205 and could try but I think this may need wet sand attention.

Thoughts?

[Evan.J]

Thats the start of clear coat failure..
Those are called crows feet.

No wet sanding will remove those it will need a repaint.

[Pureshine]

Thats the start of clear coat failure..
Those are called crows feet.

No wet sanding will remove those it will need a repaint.

:iagree:

[Iron400]

Yep like the others have said. Check out Mike's article....http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/hot-topics-frequently-asked-questions/40855-clearcoat-fracturing-versus-clearcoat-failure.html

[Attn2Detailz]

Thanks everyone, hoping the rest of the flat surfaces are fine. Coincidentally he has new bumpers, I guess it's one more thing he needs to have painted.

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[tuscarora dave]

Best thing you can do at this point of the job would be to get a dark product like Black Hole or some other for black glaze and work it wet for a few section passes to try to reduce the white appearance of the Mothers product that's now been forced down into the crow's feet and lacquer checking. Use a clear sealant if you have it instead of a wax so the white doesn't reappear as the solvents in the wax evaporates.

[Detailing by M]

..... fail

[zmcgovern45]

Thats the start of clear coat failure..
Those are called crows feet.

No wet sanding will remove those it will need a repaint.

^What he said.

[tuscarora dave]

..... fail

It doesn't have to be a fail. What would you do at this point of the job to attempt to bring it back out of the toilet?

[Attn2Detailz]

Thanks Dave, I'll give it my all!

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[jrs1418]

It doesn't have to be a fail. What would you do at this point of the job to attempt to bring it back out of the toilet?

Vinyl wrap! Carbon fiber or Shiny black? Im the MAN

[tuscarora dave]

Vinyl wrap! Carbon fiber or Shiny black? Im the MAN

Good suggestion for the customer.

Nothing like getting half way through a job and knowing that any one of John Q Puplic will see a mess like that and be told that you were the one who detailed the car. I understand what it is and why it looks like that and that it is what it is, but it's nice to be able to give the car back to the customer having had a solution to make it look as good as possible. The average Joe out there would likely think that the detailer was at fault as to why it looks like that, and that's the word of mouth that could come from a job like this.

I've used IPA and a strong stream of water from a garden hose to help remove the white residue from the cracks, even used hot tap water to rinse an APC brushed into the cracks making the car look great at the end of the job instead of having to give it back like it is in the photos.

[tuscarora dave]

How is the rest of this job turning out? Is the entire car the same as the hood?

[Evan.J]

Hey guess what I completed black Honda Civic for a forum member and his hood was the same way. Crows feet in the hood but no where else.

[tuscarora dave]

Yeah, let's hope the OP's project turns out the same way so he don't have to do a ton of extra work to make it look great. :props: