Teflon - fake / real / or scam ?

[Conman50]

Is teflon coating good for the car paint. Does it protect the car paint or causes any damage or is it a scam , I had a customer who said that she had Teflon coating on the car and she was told not to put wax on it ..Feed back please

[jrs1418]

Customers are dumb.. she meant POLISH, not wax. Polish or anything abrasive will remove an LSP.

I don't know the 100% on your question. From my research PTFE (Teflon from Dupont) needs to be heat applied and baked in high temps to get the effect you see in your frying pan.

I do have a wax that contains PTFE and acrylic resins. I must say that its applied on my windshield, and it seriously has been giving me 8+ month of water beading

[Evan.J]

Here is a few threads on the topic All Dealship scams

http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/auto-detailing-101/813-teflon-coating.html

http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/auto-detailing-101/673-teflon-sealant-same-thing.html

http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/auto-detailing-101/792-dupont.html

[R4IDER]

Teflon Harms the paint.. in my country its the term used for a "bad crappy job involving a guy doing something with a rotary and the worst brand auto-polish" for people that doesnt known 1 thing about anything car related.

[Conman50]

Thanks will do

[Dogfather]

what about Zonyl?

[swanicyouth]

How is SwissVax selling Shield? That's their durable wax with Teflon. Maybe the Teflon doesn't bond to the paint, but its emulsified in the wax to make it more hydrophobic? I don't think SwissVax would be selling non-sense. I think they have been around like 80 years.

[FUNX650]

Can there any doubt that the below product contains authentic Teflon?!?!

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Bob

[Hoytman]

I['ve never had an opportunity to read anything about PTEF on paint...there's just so many other quality products out there for paint...just never looked into it for such.

However, PTEF seems to be offered in several product lines for the marine detailing industry...errr...um...at least it's sold to everyday boaters as over-the-counter products, and product lines, at places like Boat U.S. (may be out of business now...idk...) and West Marine. One product line that comes to mind is the Starbrite brand of products, which seem to be one of the more popular lines sold at those stores...at least around the Great Lakes region.

I've used several Starbrite products and the only product that really sticks out as an undeniable go-to product is their Deck cleaner, and it works far better than anything else I've tried including ARO which didn't impress me at all.

[tuscarora dave]

Can there any doubt that the below product contains authentic Teflon?!?!



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Bob
I think this is the first typo I've ever seen from you Bob...

As for the question, I think the product must contain it but am skeptical as to if it provides any real benefit other that a different form of hydrophobia.

[PiPUK]

As far as I am aware, fluoro carbon additives are not uncommon but don't give the performance that is typically believed. I cannot say all such components but I would be confident to say 'most' are sold as slip additives. For this application, they are used in any number of products and provide a 'slick' finish. In durability terms, I don't think that the simple polymers are likely to give anything special. The problem is that nothing sticks to them and (if you think about it) they don't stick that well to anything else! So they just are not going to have any strength of bond and will just not last. To get teflon to bond needs high temperatures. It should be noted that the terms PTFE/Zonyl/Teflon are often mis-used and some times may be being used in breach of trademark! Anyhow, there are other fluoro carbon options out there which can be prepared without the same high temperatures. I am uncertain if anyone is genuinely using this technology but, if so, it would be in a nano/ceramic type product and will require extreme cleanliness and controlled conditions. To my understanding, this would be the only way a vehicle could have an aftermarket protective finish.

[Dogfather]

For this application, they are used in any number of products and provide a 'slick' finish. In durability terms, I don't think that the simple polymers are likely to give anything special.

Gliptone states on their website that Zonyl in their Platinum Wax does nothing to extend durability, just adds slickness. They go on to say it would have to be heated to 600°f to bond to any surface.

I'm just mentioning this to point out that every company isn't out to mislead the consumer.

[FUNX650]

I think this is the first typo I've ever seen from you Bob...

OOOPS!! http://www.runemasterstudios.com/graemlins/images/embarrassed.gif
I took my eyes off the keyboard/monitor for just a second to say 'HI' { http://www.runemasterstudios.com/graemlins/images/kissing.gif} to "The Good Wife"...
and look what happened! :nomore: of that non-sense, I say...LOL!


As for the question, I think the product must contain it
but am skeptical as to if it provides any real benefit other that a different form of hydrophobia.
I, too, am skeptical Dave.

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Bob

[jrs1418]

Teflon Harms the paint.. in my country its the term used for a "bad crappy job involving a guy doing something with a rotary and the worst brand auto-polish" for people that doesnt known 1 thing about anything car related.

How does teflon harm the paint?