Clear coat problem or something else?

[Onetime75]

Ok, I bought my wife a white 2009 Toyota Camry. I took it to a professional that was recommended by a paint and body shop to have it polished and waxed after having a few blemishes in the paint repaired. When I got the car back the paint had a nice shine and it was as smooth as glass.

A short time later I started to see the same brown specs in the clear coat that initially prompted me to have a quality detail performed on the car. Yes, I washed the car in a timely manor, however the brown specs started to build up quickly. I parked my 2002 white Tahoe in the same spot and although I would see some specs from time to time the vehicle was easily cleaned. My idea was to have a professional bring the paint back to life and I would keep it up. The brown specs are almost impossible to get off the car. It also has stains on the paint similar to what you would see if wet leaves or bird poop were left in place for extended periods of time, however that did not happen. I just washed the car today and there was some type of debris on the roof that was not there yesterday but the stain is now embedded in the clear and I can't even get it off with bug and tar remover.

What should I do and what is the problem? Is the clear coat gone from this vehicle? Do I take it and have a professional polish and wax the vehicle and use some type of sealer? The paint should not be in this shape on a 2009 vehicle. Any tips would be most appreciated. Also if you need any more information just ask. I'll check back in when I get home later today and thank you for the help. :help:

[Detailing by M]

pics please

[Setec Astronomy]

It's hard to tell from your description what is going on. The brown specs could be rail dust or other ferrous fallout, which rusts and causes the brown specs. Some types of "detailing" will completely remove these, while other type will not...resulting in the "rusting" coming back. It's also possible this is new contamination, even though you have parked your car in the same spot and not gotten any. Presumably your wife has a different driving pattern than you do.

It may also be some organic (tree) fallout, and it may be that this is more noticeable or "sticks" more on her vehicle than yours. As M noted, pictures would help.

[rmagnus]

I had a white Ford Explorer that developed rust spots from above surface continents. At the time I didn't know much about the issue. This SUV saw its fair share of outside LAX airport parking.

I tried to get Ford to warrantee the paint but since the rust didn't start below the paint surface the rejected the claim.

Clay and wax fixed the issue. Back then (early 90s) I didnt know about products like IronX but that would have been a great additional step.

White shows this issue the worst. BTW my explorer was only about 2 years old when all this started.

As others have requested good pictures will help. You didn't indicate where on the car these problems were but mine were on the hood and roof (horizontal panels).

[Onetime75]

Sorry about leaving out the pics, I was in a hurry earlier. I just got back so I am going to take some high resolution photos and try to get them up for you guys. Bare with me and thanks for the help.

[Setec Astronomy]

Clay and wax fixed the issue. Back then (early 90s) I didnt know about products like IronX but that would have been a great additional step.

Ha ha, there were no products like Iron-X 20 years ago. I'm not even sure the acid decon kits were available then, you were probably on your own with a bottle of muriatic acid or something like that, if people even realized the problem could be fixed that way.

[Onetime75]

Not sure if this is going to work

[Setec Astronomy]

Yikes, that's not rail dust. Looks like some rusty water from something dripped on there. Who parks in a parking garage?

[Onetime75]

Sweet, the spots are primarily on the hood, roof, and trunk. The trees in the yard that are in the general area of the car are sycamore, magnolia, crate myrtle and two pecan trees. It was parked near the crate myrtle and pecan trees, but we have since moved it closer to the magnolia and sycamore.

She parks in a parking garage at work. I used the bug and tar remover and left it on the spot for 1 minute per the directions with no result. The paint was cool to the touch and medium scrubbing used with a clean microfiber towel three separate times. I know it will come off using a polishing compound, but I can't polish the car every week...I'll be done to bare metal in no time. I just don't understand why this paint is so susceptible to stains and debris. Also, you can easily feel the brown specs when you run your hand over the paint.

[Setec Astronomy]

It might be from the trees, but it could also be from the parking deck. When it rains, water runs through the structure and picks up all kinds of nastiness from the concrete, the rebar, etc. A good LSP is going to be your best defense against that, but if it's rust and minerals, nothing it going to be perfect.

[Onetime75]

Sorry LSP?

[Setec Astronomy]

Wax.

[cmoneyinc]

Yikes, that's not rail dust. Looks like some rusty water from something dripped on there. Who parks in a parking garage?
:iagree:
Its rusty water from the parking garage. My wife's vehicle gets the exact same thing from parking in the parking garage at her work. It's very hard to remove with a normal wash, even with a good coat of wax or sealant on the car.

It will come off with a medium grade clay. Just remember you will have to put a LSP on the areas after you remove it with clay (wax or sealant). If she continues to park there, your going to be doing a lot of claying and waxing/sealing.

[Onetime75]

All right then, I guess it's time for a polish, wax, and seal. Next thing I need to consider is buying the tools to do this myself. I have everything I need except the orbital polisher and a good selection of pads. This would be strictly for personal use on two vehicles. Let me know if you have a recommendation that would be suited to my needs. Also, if anyone could recommend a polishing compound that they like or one that may be more forgiving for beginners.

I know there's a lot of information here and I'm sure I can find plenty of articles on this subject. Thank you very much for taking the time to help.

Best,

Demian

[rmagnus]

All right then, I guess it's time for a polish, wax, and seal. Next thing I need to consider is buying the tools to do this myself. I have everything I need except the orbital polisher and a good selection of pads. This would be strictly for personal use on two vehicles. Let me know if you have a recommendation that would be suited to my needs. Also, if anyone could recommend a polishing compound that they like or one that may be more forgiving for beginners.

I know there's a lot of information here and I'm sure I can find plenty of articles on this subject. Thank you very much for taking the time to help.

Best,

Demian

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