Collinite 840 or Clay

[master_photog]

Hello again!

I'm ready to do my mid summer CLEANING of my single stage white 2012 Tundra and had a question regarding paint cleaner/prep prior to waxing with Collinite's 476S.

I believe I have a couple options according to some of the forum topics and manufacturer instructions on paint preparation.

After washing and drying, I have a couple products that I have on hand and was curious what would be your suggestion, or is this a matter of preference, or do these two products serve two separate purposes?

I have the collinite 840 pre wax cleaner, and I also have Griot's Garage Paint Cleaning Clay. Does anyone like one over the other or is this more of a trial and see for myself type scenario?

Here are the links of the two products that I have:

Collinite Sapphire PreWax Cleaner #840 (http://www.autogeek.net/sapphire-prewax-cleaner-840.html)

Griot's Garage Paint Cleaning Clay, Griots Detailing Clay Bar, Auto Detailing Clay, Griots Garage Clay Bar (http://www.autogeek.net/griots-detailing-clay.html)


Thanks!!

[master_photog]

Hey all, I've started applying the 840 and this stuff is not coming off with a hand towel. I'm applying a THIN coat with my DA on a medium speed with a blue applicator sponge pad. When I apply to a small area and wipe immediately, I still have a light haze or residue left over that absolutely will not wipe clean. So, I decided to apply the Collinite 476s on top of the hazy 840 with the DA and it all wipes nice a clean.

Just curious why the 840 is not wanting to come off after applying per the instructions.

[AutowerxDetailing]

I've never worked with it but if it is difficult to wipe off and you are following the directions try using a little less product. If that's not the issue it may just be difficult to work with and require something like diluted IPA to help remove it prior to your LSP.

[Toonces]

A quote from the Collonite 840 page: "*Note: Collinite Liquid Sapphire PreWax Cleaner #840 is formulated for single stage, enamel, and lacquer paint finishes. For clear coat paint, use Pinnacle Paintwork Cleansing Lotion"

Your Tundra presumably has a clear coat finish. I've heard 840 can leave a haze on clear coat finishes. Perhaps worth looking into.

FWIW, I don't consider clay and cleaner to be an either/or proposition. In most cases where paint needs to be clayed it would also benefit from a good cleaning.

HTH,

///Mike

[master_photog]

This particular Tundra is a single stage white paint. Their white Tundra's are the only single stage in their fleet.