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Tropicality
06-04-2007, 12:45 AM
First off I'm in Canada so I am going to be ordering my products from AG's recommended supplier eShine Canada- Canada's Car Care Leader. (http://www.eshine.ca)

I plan on detailing a few cars on the side once I get practice on my own/families cars. I have plenty of family cars to practice on (10+ in the area, some are work vehicles that are really bad condition that I can get some good practice on oxidized/damaged paint surfaces) Which is the reason I am purchasing such a wide range of products for many applications considering I have a brand new car [white paint with metallic flakes] that just has minor swirls that need to be polished)

The main product lines that I will be purchasing from that eshine stocks are Pinnacle, Wolfgang, Optimum, and Poorboy's, they don't stock all of Pinnacle products or any DP along with some other brands here, which is why you don't see them in my list... (See eshine's brand list here: Klasse |Wolfgang | P21S | Lake Country | Poorboy's | Meguiars | Sonus | RaggTopp | Pinnacle | ClearKote | Optimum | Stoner | 303 | Lexol | Wenol - eShine Canada Brands (http://www.eshine.ca/brands.php) )

The owner of eshine told me he could special order some products from AG for me, I'll mostly just want the menzerna polishes and would like to stick with as much stuff as possible just from eshine though..

Well here is the list, it would be appreciated if anyone were to let me know if I'm missing anything or if there is a better alternative that is available on eshine!

Wash:

-PB Bug Squash
-PB SSS Wash (To compare to Meguiars Gold Class which I can get in 1 gallon for $12 locally)
-PB Wheel Cleaner
-PB All Purpose Cleaner (For engine/carpets)
-DP 4in1 (concentrated formula that I plan on diluting for a clay lubricant and QD to get bugs off the front end in between washes... good choice for this? Or will it diminish the SSII much quicker than using Crystal mist?)
-(Clay Magic Bar's from local store)

Polish:

-Menzerna Intensive Polish
-Menzerna Final Polish
-Menzerna Finishing Glaze

Protect:

-Klasse Twins (for the value detail job topped with Liquid Souveran Spray for extra shine)
-Liquid Souveran Spray
-Pinnacle Liquid Souveran Wax
-WG Black Diamond Tire Gel
--for the wheel protectant I heard Klasse AIO is pretty good?
-PB Natural Look Dressing (for interior vinyl/rubber/dash/that rubber stuff that seals the doors...)
-303 Aerospace Protectant (for truck beds and clean trim)
-PB Trim Restore for the trim, or should I just use 303? (If so what else should I use 303 on?) [Or should I just get both and just use 303 on good trim but PB TR and then 303 on top of that for faded trim??]
-Plexus for clear plastic and to coat the interior tinted windows
-The rest of my turtle wax tire shine for wheel wells and then probably some other local bought product for the same thing once the turtle's have gone

Glass: I haven't really found from lurking the forums what I should use on the glass? In some of the Show N' Shine threads the glass is as glossy as the paint!! That's what I'd like to achieve also. Does Klasse AIO do that? And then I'll probably use Stoner's Invisible Glass Cleaner on the interior windows (and rainx on my interior windshield once winter hits again [that stuff really does keep the moisture off the inside windshield])

Interior:
-WG Leather Cleaner
-WG Leather Conditioner
-(PB's All purpose cleaner) - is this good enough to clean ALL interior surfaces [minus windows/leather] including cloth seats??
-(PB's Natural Look Dressing) -- Or Optimum Protectant+?

Also when detailing is there anything that should be used on carpets/cloth seats after to 'repel stains' like Stoners?

Tools:
-Mega Plush Large Mitt (microfiber) for washing
-(Brushes for tires/wheel/carpet from local Canadian tire [Like Target])
-5gallon clean paint buckets (My grandpa is a painter, has plenty in his garage)
-Dehydrator Waffle Weave Drying Towel
-PC 7424 w/ LC 6.5" pads (1 yellow cutting [will I ever use this?], 2 orange cutting, 2 white polishing, 2 grey) and also a set of 3.5" pads
-10 Tornado MF tagless Buffing towels for paint work
-10 Regular MF towels for the interior/trim/glass (+1 gallon of micro-restore cleaner)
(Meguiar's foam pads and wheel dressing applicators from another local detailing store)

Feed back please

devst8
06-04-2007, 06:45 AM
First, welcome fellow Canadian! :cheers:

This site is great and you will learn a lot!
Seems like you have a nice grocery list there! I didn’t try all you’re about to purchase but I will give you a little feedback on a few.

-clay: you should buy the Ricardo yellow clay from eShine, they are great!

-PB all purpose cleaner: You can also buy Megs APC by the gallon at you’re local CarQuest

-polish: I personally had great success with the XMT line for the PC, especially 360 which I
think is a must. I used to do the Klasse twins for value jobs but now it’s 360 all the way! I haven’t try Optimum poli-seal which from what I’ve read is pretty good too. I have a few bottles coming and I will try it next weekend

For you’re glass, I also use Klasse AIO and I really love it. Maybe there’s a better product to polish your windows but I’m satisfied with KAIO. I find this product very polyvalent! I also use it also on my wheels.

For your carpet after they are cleaned, try some scotch guard on it. You can buy this at CT or Wal-Mart

Pads: I would buy 2x orange pads instead of the yellow. I don’t think you’ll ever need it. On really bad area, I’d rather do more pass then use an aggressive pad and cut too much.

Hope it help a bit ;)

BILL
06-04-2007, 07:59 AM
Welcome...........:cheers:

sparkie
06-04-2007, 01:22 PM
Welcome to AGOL. Do you know Nica? :D LOL!!! I had to say that, Nica is from Canada too.

ScottB
06-04-2007, 04:34 PM
remember AG ships to canada also, seems that Meghan recently offered some new shipping choices with better pricing. Might wanna check with her first.

Truls
06-04-2007, 05:14 PM
Welcome to AG.

Just missing DuraGloss.

Duragloss Car Care Appearance products The Wet Look (http://www.autogeek.net/duragloss.html)

Tropicality
06-06-2007, 09:28 AM
Welcome to AG.

Just missing DuraGloss.

Duragloss Car Care Appearance products The Wet Look (http://www.autogeek.net/duragloss.html)

Which DG products do you recommend in place of or in addition to anything on my list?

sparkie
06-06-2007, 02:27 PM
I would add:
Duragloss Car Wash Concentrate #901 (http://www.autogeek.net/duragloss-car-wash-concentrate.html)
Duragloss Aquawax (AW) #951 (http://www.autogeek.net/duragloss-aquawax--951.html)
Duragloss Fast Clean & Shine Detail Spray #921 (http://www.autogeek.net/duragloss-fast-clean-shine-detail-spray.html)
Duragloss Total Performance Polish (TPP) #105 (http://www.autogeek.net/duragloss-total-performance-polish.html)
Duragloss Polish & Cleaner (PC) #101 (http://www.autogeek.net/duragloss-polish---cleaner.html)
Duragloss Metal Cleaner & Brightener #831 (http://www.autogeek.net/duragloss-metal-cleaner---brightener-831.html)
:)

Nica
06-06-2007, 03:23 PM
I would add:
Duragloss Car Wash Concentrate #901 (http://www.autogeek.net/duragloss-car-wash-concentrate.html)
Duragloss Aquawax (AW) #951 (http://www.autogeek.net/duragloss-aquawax--951.html)
Duragloss Fast Clean & Shine Detail Spray #921 (http://www.autogeek.net/duragloss-fast-clean-shine-detail-spray.html)
Duragloss Total Performance Polish (TPP) #105 (http://www.autogeek.net/duragloss-total-performance-polish.html)
Duragloss Polish & Cleaner (PC) #101 (http://www.autogeek.net/duragloss-polish---cleaner.html)
Duragloss Metal Cleaner & Brightener #831 (http://www.autogeek.net/duragloss-metal-cleaner---brightener-831.html)
:)

:iagree: I haven't used the Duragloss products my self but that's what I've ordered...just what Dr. Sparkie recommended hehehehe.

The list looks good, I agree too. You need some Ricardo Clay, nice clay...oh and for really tough jobs you can get the Clay Magic (red one) localy.

I would recomend Meg's APC, really good stuff and scotchguard is good too...well it's all good advice here I'm just :iagree:ing...:D

So now we all need to get together...CalgaryDetail, your self and my self...there are more from Calgary too just can't remember there names at the moment...sorry bad memory.

Truls
06-06-2007, 04:13 PM
AS Sparkie said....

Bonding Agent 601 is also good if you just want to just "smack" some 105 on a car quick.

Sorry, dont understand the words "in addition too" Tropicality;)

We only use the frase "add" here......he he

Looks like you are getting a bunch of stuff, so imo the DG stuff just "complete" the line up, off course you could skip some stuff, but im not the one too ask:) i just love trying out everything to find the WOWs!

CalgaryDetail
06-06-2007, 04:35 PM
So now we all need to get together...CalgaryDetail, your self and my self...there are more from Calgary too just can't remember there names at the moment...sorry bad memory.

well theres

1. you
2. Me
3. New guy (lol just giving you a hard time)
4. Jed
5. Sneek
6. The person who sent me a pm months ago that i lost :cheers:
7. Im sure i could get steve from 2 clean.

ok back on topic.

When starting start smaller. Buy one of each type of product. For example buy one type of swirl remover. Get used to it and see if you like it, if you want somthing else then try somthing else. If you order tomany of the same thing you will find it overwhelming and you wont get a fair assesment of what you are ussing.

Just my 2 cents

richy
06-06-2007, 10:09 PM
Welcome fellow Canuck!!

eShine Canada
06-06-2007, 10:10 PM
My advice is don't get overwhelmed. Many people will make different recommendations based on personal preference. Your preference may be different. How do you find YOUR preference??? Easy, start with the basics and get some time in; when you start to find things you like/dislike about a product you can then make better educated decisions based on experience. Start basic, no need for multiple products that do the same thing, as I said earlier you will likely be happy with most products you can buy here. Below is my basic recommendation (Not brand specific).

1. An auto Wash, get at least 32oz.
2. Claybar and Claylube
3. PC with backing Plates and a few pads.
4. 2-3 grades of swirl removers.
5. A good Polish (Pre-Wax)
6. A Sealant
7. A Carnauba
8. A Dozen Microfiber towels.

You will then at least be able to start detailing and stop stressing. Remember trying to find the product that works best for you wont come from someone elses opinion, start with something and expect to keep trying new things.

Chris Pace
eShine Car Care

bambo2888
06-06-2007, 10:40 PM
Wow, youre going to make someone's day with that order! nice choices on products too