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agarabaghi
07-01-2013, 06:19 PM
So on my quest to figure out the next process in this world of detailing... id like to find some more information on swirl removal...

I read this article:

Wolfgang Total Swirl Remover 3.0, Wolfgang Auto Polish, Car polish, Wolfgang swirl remover polish, Wolfgang Menzerna (http://www.autogeek.net/wotoswre.html)

and it seems pretty straight forward. Here are my questions:

1) Do I need to "swirl remove". My car is a 2010 Land Rover LR4. And here is a close up pic of the paint.

2) How ofter does one swirl remove? Every car wash? Every other? once every 6 months?

3) Do you need a DA polisher or can it be done by hand?

4) Im assuming a pad on this sander would not be the same?
Amazon.com: DEWALT D26451 3-Amp 5-Inch Random-Orbit Sander with Cloth Dust Bag: Power & Hand Tools (http://www.amazon.com/DEWALT-D26451-5-Inch-Random-Orbit-Sander/dp/B0009WRKUM/ref=sr_1_8?m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&s=power-hand-tools&ie=UTF8&qid=1372720685&sr=1-8)

Chris@AutoCleanse
07-01-2013, 06:22 PM
I don't see the picture?

Jet Black
07-01-2013, 06:38 PM
Welcome to the forums this is a great place for info on car care, I've learned a lot by browsing and asking questions. But we do need pics.

agarabaghi
07-01-2013, 07:23 PM
yup my bad.. I forgot to attach them

https://imageshack.com/scaled/large/843/cvkj.jpg
https://imageshack.com/scaled/large/833/1hnk.jpg

inDetail
07-01-2013, 07:31 PM
Welcome to the Geek.
Need some pics to point you down the right road.
Advice off the bat
Take the time to learn and research equipment products and technique. Correct the paint once. Then learn the proper way to maintain the paint so you don't put swirls back in the paint.
Depending how bad the paint condition is it can be done by hand to some degree. Machine is best. Polishing a whole SUV by hand can get old real fast.
So send us some pics and we can point you forward. You can hop on youtube and search junkman2000 he has a bunch of straight forward detailing videos that make it very easy to follow. He makes it fun.

inDetail
07-01-2013, 07:41 PM
unless I'm blind or your camera is way out of focus I don't see any marring, swirls or rids at least in that picture.
If that is the condition it looks like it may need a good two bucket method wash, clay, pre wax cleaner or light finishing polish then seal and wax.
Yes you could do all that by hand.
I would get some reflection and full sun shots. They will help even more.
As far as correcting paint. You only have so much paint on a car. Correct it once and maintain it well and you may only need to spot polish here and there.

agarabaghi
07-01-2013, 10:09 PM
There are def not swirl marks. I just wasn't sure if swirl removal was something all paints could benefit from.

That picture is post
- wash
- clay
- compound certain area
- liquid wax

Im just trying to find the next step in detailing.

theblob640
07-01-2013, 10:15 PM
From the pictures you provided, if your paint looks like that, you are golden. Just maintain it. Just remember that you cannot keep "swirl removing" or keep correcting your paint, because every time you correct your paint, you remove a thin layer of clear coat and that is something you do not have a lot of.

BradsDetailing
07-01-2013, 10:18 PM
Just wash it, clay if needed and put a sealant on it and add a wax if you want

agarabaghi
07-01-2013, 10:38 PM
what is this sealant people are talking about? Also what is a good wax, currently I am using Rain-X wax as the "water beading" label got me hahah....

Id like to order some better wax that will give the car that "wet" look.

Edit: I just did some reading on sealants and I might have to give that a try next week. I see the klasse and wolfgang are spoken about a lot, so I will probably pick up one of those.

BradsDetailing
07-02-2013, 12:12 AM
klasse is one of the most reputable. It's hard to buff off but it lasts

agarabaghi
07-02-2013, 06:29 AM
Is that what gives the wet look?i saw sone pictures of son1cs blue mustang and wow did it look nice.

Maybe son1c can shed some light on his methods

Kevin Cullen
07-02-2013, 06:57 AM
Klasse is a very good product, add two layers of klasse glaze over the AIO and you have a nice wet look. You can top with any wax you wish.

Also check out Duragloss, they have some great products which are "tough as nails" so to speak. :)

IMO sealants are the way to go with a wax topper.

agarabaghi
07-02-2013, 07:12 AM
pardon my lack of knowledge... but what is AIO? From work AIO is an All-In-One computer.

So my routine now would be:
wash -> dry -> clay -> aio? -> 2 layers of klasse glaze sealant -> rain x liquid wax?

Assuming this is the AIO? Klasse AIO, klasse all in one 10 ounce, klasse all in one polish, klasse acrylic polish (http://www.autogeek.net/klasalpolsea.html)
And this is the glaze? Klasse High Gloss Sealant Glaze, klasse SG sealant, klasse sealant glase,klasse sealant (http://www.autogeek.net/klashiggloss.html)

Kevin Cullen
07-02-2013, 08:58 AM
Yes AIO is "all in one". The Klasse aio is a cleaner sealer product, not much correctin abilities. Follow with the sealant glaze. Then wax of you like. A great wax to look into and great reviews here is Collinite 845.