Just picked up a DeWalt 849X rotary buffer...

[WRAPT C5Z06]

Tried my friends and I was sold! When used with pliable foam pads and wool, it's not hard to use at all. Keep the polisher constantly moving and use common sense and burning paint shouldn't be an issue. Even the Rupes LHR 21ES can't hang with removing defects vs. the DeWalt!

[Mike Phillips]

Tried my friends and I was sold! When used with pliable foam pads and wool, it's not hard to use at all. Keep the polisher constantly moving and use common sense and burning paint shouldn't be an issue. Even the Rupes LHR 21ES can't hang with removing defects vs. the DeWalt!


Definitely a "must have tool" in the arsenal of detailing tools... It's never a "which tool is best", it's "which tool is best for the job at hand".


Get some junker panels from the salvage yard or from a body shop to practice on.


Hey if Audrey can do it you can too... (she's using a Flex PE14 but same idea)



How to use a Rotary Buffer (http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/ask-expert-featuring-mike-phillips/56160-how-use-rotary-buffer.html)


The perfect training vehicle
Classic Corvettes like this 1966 Sting Ray work great for learning how to hold and use a rotary buffer. There are plenty of raised body lines to learn how to avoid buffing on top of and a good mix of flat panes and lots of curves. PLUS it's a CORVETTE!

Audrey & Juan learning to use a Rotary Buffer on a 1966 Corvette


At this last weekend's class we had a a married couple attend, Juan and Audrey and both were new to machine polishing. Over the course of the 2-day class they both received lots of hands-on training and hands-on practice using a variety of tools.

Here's Audrey and Juan learning to use a Flex PE14 Rotary Buffer with a wool pad and Meguiar's M105 Ultra Cut Compound to remove the swirls and scratches out of a 1966 Corvette Sting Ray...


First thing a person needs to learn is how to clean their wool pad using a pad cleaning spur
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/1570/TrainingVette001.jpg


Perfect!
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/1570/TrainingVette002.jpg


Next is learning to pick up an bead of product using the 10 @ 10 Technique...
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/1570/TrainingVette003.jpg


Then with a little hands-on guidance, how much pressure to apply, how slow to move the polisher over the paint and how much downward pressure to use...
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/1570/TrainingVette004.jpg

http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/1570/TrainingVette005.jpg


Removing swirls and scratches next to the driver side mirror...
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/1570/TrainingVette006.jpg

http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/1570/TrainingVette007.jpg


She's doing great!
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/1570/TrainingVette008.jpg

Nice job Audrey!


http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/1570/1966VetteAfter001.jpg

:xyxthumbs:

[WRAPT C5Z06]

Definitely a "must have tool" in the arsenal of detailing tools... It's never a "which tool is best", it's "which tool is best for the job at hand".


Get some junker panels from the salvage yard or from a body shop to practice on.


Hey if Audrey can do it you can too... (she's using a Flex PE14 but same idea)



How to use a Rotary Buffer (http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/ask-expert-featuring-mike-phillips/56160-how-use-rotary-buffer.html)


The perfect training vehicle
Classic Corvettes like this 1966 Sting Ray work great for learning how to hold and use a rotary buffer. There are plenty of raised body lines to learn how to avoid buffing on top of and a good mix of flat panes and lots of curves. PLUS it's a CORVETTE!

Audrey & Juan learning to use a Rotary Buffer on a 1966 Corvette


At this last weekend's class we had a a married couple attend, Juan and Audrey and both were new to machine polishing. Over the course of the 2-day class they both received lots of hands-on training and hands-on practice using a variety of tools.

Here's Audrey and Juan learning to use a Flex PE14 Rotary Buffer with a wool pad and Meguiar's M105 Ultra Cut Compound to remove the swirls and scratches out of a 1966 Corvette Sting Ray...


First thing a person needs to learn is how to clean their wool pad using a pad cleaning spur
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/1570/TrainingVette001.jpg


Perfect!
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/1570/TrainingVette002.jpg


Next is learning to pick up an bead of product using the 10 @ 10 Technique...
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/1570/TrainingVette003.jpg


Then with a little hands-on guidance, how much pressure to apply, how slow to move the polisher over the paint and how much downward pressure to use...
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/1570/TrainingVette004.jpg

http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/1570/TrainingVette005.jpg


Removing swirls and scratches next to the driver side mirror...
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/1570/TrainingVette006.jpg

http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/1570/TrainingVette007.jpg


She's doing great!
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/1570/TrainingVette008.jpg

Nice job Audrey!


http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/1570/1966VetteAfter001.jpg

:xyxthumbs:
Perfectttttttt information, Mike.


Thank you!!!

[AutowerxDetailing]

Nice pick up! :props:

I've had my 849x for a while now and it's still my go-to for deeper isolated defects. I honestly haven't used it as much since I've switched mostly to MF pads but there are times when I am so glad I have it available.

[sproketser]

Will think about this one on 1st buy I guess . Thanx for sharing .

[rmagnus]

Tried my friends and I was sold! When used with pliable foam pads and wool, it's not hard to use at all. Keep the polisher constantly moving and use common sense and burning paint shouldn't be an issue. Even the Rupes LHR 21ES can't hang with removing defects vs. the DeWalt!

Welcome to the dark side (of more power). You really can't compare a RB to a DA not a fair fight at all. The two should compliment each other nicely however. Just don't loose concentration because when it goes bad it goes bad quickly. That's not to say RB's are hard to use or dangerous just more powerful and if you crank up the rpms and loose concentration towards the end of a long day look out.

The 849X is a great value.

[Dr Oldz]

Very nice Mark. I'm sure with your skill and hunger for knowledge that you will have it mastered in no time. Great machine!!

[Mike Phillips]

Very nice Mark. I'm sure with your skill and hunger for knowledge that you will have it mastered in no time. Great machine!!

I'd agree with all of the above. I've been in the forum world as long anyone and met a very wide spectrum of people and Mark certainly has shown himself to be very passionate about both the car hobby in general and car detailing in specific and his posts are always interesting, positive and engaging.

To that point I can already see future rotary buffer threads...

:xyxthumbs:

[Mike Phillips]

Three simple accessories to get along with your rotary buffer,

Backing Plate Adapter/Extension
Steel Spur
Flexible Backing Plates

Minimum best thee "must haves" with a rotary buffer.

:)

[WRAPT C5Z06]

Mike, thank you for the compliments. You have and will always help me tremendously! Much appreciated! I have a huge passion for detailing. I can honestly say it's a hobby that interests me the most, bar none!

I do not have any of the must haves you listed; I will be ordering them very soon.

Jim(Dr. Oldz), thank you for the compliment and for always sharing your knowledge. I value your opinion highly! I definitely don't expect to master a rotary overnight, but I'm confident I'll at least get the hang of it fairly quickly.

[WRAPT C5Z06]

Where does the extension come into play with a rotary?

[Hoytman]

Get a spur with a rubber grip because the spur I have gets black gunk from the aluminum all over my hands. Oh, and pick up two extensions, they are cheap.

I sort of surprised, Mark, that you hadn't tried a rotary already. I think you'll love it. Just take your time and allow yourself to become comfortable with its use and you'll like it more and more.

I have a cheap-o Harbor Freight model. I wouldn't know how to act with an 849x or PE14, which I absolutely love.

[IID]

Where does the extension come into play with a rotary?

I use it for putting 3"-4" backing plate/pads on my rotaries to do mirrors,around mirrors,A-Pillars,small/narrow sections of bumpers,and hard to reach places.


I found this on AG web store to give you an example Mark.

http://lib.store.yahoo.net/lib/autogeek/rotary-backing-plate-extension-2.jpg

[WRAPT C5Z06]

Get a spur with a rubber grip because the spur I have gets black gunk from the aluminum all over my hands. Oh, and pick up two extensions, they are cheap.

I sort of surprised, Mark, that you hadn't tried a rotary already. I think you'll love it. Just take your time and allow yourself to become comfortable with its use and you'll like it more and more.

I have a cheap-o Harbor Freight model. I wouldn't know how to act with an 849x or PE14, which I absolutely love.
Hey Bill, yeah, I've never really given rotary buffers a chance, but now is the time. I'm excited! Thanks for the tips.






I use it for putting 3"-4" backing plate/pads on my rotaries to do mirrors,around mirrors,A-Pillars,small/narrow sections of bumpers,and hard to reach places.


I found this on AG web store to give you an example Mark.

http://lib.store.yahoo.net/lib/autogeek/rotary-backing-plate-extension-2.jpg
Thanks Chris! :dblthumb2:

[Durallymax]

Youll love it. I only use my 849x for metal/aluminum and use a Flex PE14 for paint, but I can say the DeWalt is a very well built machine. The Flex is just a little nicer to use but not necessarily $200 nicer. The DeWalt has more power and speed than the flex and the lint gaurds are nice.

X2 on a spur, plenty of backing plate sizes and extensions. I always have a small extension on mine. Just makes it nicer to use and makes it easier to get around some obstacle and makes it easier to see what you are doing.


Good luck with it.