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Lexi65
04-20-2013, 10:04 PM
Been reading lots of different forums and understand from what Mike P. says that you should use the least aggressive methods necessary to accomplish your goals, correction, etc.

IIRC I read somewhere that M105 and M205 were aggressive.
I appreciate your thoughts/comments!

Feed back please

spiralout462
04-20-2013, 10:09 PM
M105 is a compound. M205 is a fine cut polish. There are more aggressive and less aggressive products. It's all relative to your paint, pad, technique, and product.

Lexi65
04-20-2013, 10:16 PM
M105 is a compound. M205 is a fine cut polish. There are more aggressive and less aggressive products. It's all relative to your paint, pad, technique, and product.


IIRC the thread I'm referring to (can't remember which forum site) also mentioned that some detailers use these two because
they make for less work. Just sounded like they were more aggressive and got the job done quicker because of it. Being nervous about removing CC ... It bothers me.

Vegas Transplant
04-20-2013, 10:30 PM
I think that too many jump straight for the Megs twins.
And judging from the posts here on the forums, many fail to test spot.

mavin
04-20-2013, 10:34 PM
I have not yet used any of these products, but it seems like m105 is a bit outdated now and that m101 and FG400 are the new players for higher cut.

Lexi65
04-20-2013, 10:42 PM
I have not yet used any of these products, but it seems like m105 is a bit outdated now and that m101 and FG400 are the new players for higher cut.

Please elaborate. What do you mean by higher cut? Is that synonymous with more aggressive?

Thanks!

:buffing:

Vegas Transplant
04-20-2013, 10:45 PM
Three things that I don't understand concerning enthusiasts and weekend warriors:
1. Time savings assoc. with aggressive products.
2. Time savings assoc. with certain clay alternatives.
3. Disregard of CC film.

I do understand time is money as far as for the Pros, just don't totally agreee with much of the mentality.

mwoolfso
04-20-2013, 10:50 PM
Been reading lots of different forums and understand from what Mike P. says that you should use the least aggressive methods necessary to accomplish your goals, correction, etc.

IIRC I read somewhere that M105 and M205 were aggressive.
I appreciate your thoughts/comments!

Feed back please

M105 is a heavy cut polish.... combined with a wool, heavy or light cutting pad and you have a combination that goes from very aggressive to aggressive.

M205 is a fine-cut polish.... combined with a polishing pad and you have a good approach to get the finish LSP-ready. I would not define M205 as a heavy-cut <anything>.

As far as using least-aggressive approaches, it is all about taking away just enough paint to bring back the deep gloss and/or shine in the paint.

mwoolfso
04-20-2013, 10:51 PM
Please elaborate. What do you mean by higher cut? Is that synonymous with more aggressive?

Thanks!

:buffing:

Probably

Lexi65
04-20-2013, 10:51 PM
Three things that I don't understand concerning enthusiasts and weekend warriors:
1. Time savings assoc. with aggressive products.
2. Time savings assoc. with certain clay alternatives.
3. Disregard of CC film.

I do understand time is money as far as for the Pros, just don't totally agreee with much of the mentality.

Thank you... My thoughts exactly!

spiralout462
04-20-2013, 10:55 PM
I don't know if you have seen this thread but I think it's worth the read.

http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/auto-detailing-101/59393-maximize-your-product-s-full-potential.html?highlight=maximize+product

psnt1ol
04-20-2013, 11:13 PM
I think that too many jump straight for the Megs twins.
And judging from the posts here on the forums, many fail to test spot.

+1


I have not yet used any of these products, but it seems like m105 is a bit outdated now and that m101 and FG400 are the new players for higher cut.

I would not say that it is outdated.

It is the combination of the machine, the pad, and the compound/polish that determine the aggressiveness of ones approach. IMO...The advancement in pads and machines (in the last few years) had affected how this products is being used.

I often would add a drop or 2 to D300 with my MF cutting pad on the Flex when I want a little extra bite. M105 with wool on a Rotary is still the "Terminator" IMO. M105 with MF on a PC can still get you there but it just takes a bit longer and the experience is not for the faint of heart if you are new to DA polishing (dusting and product removal). And then, there is the Rupes...... I have to wait and see since it is on my wish list.

Almost forgot..... Skill level plays a part in this as well. There are great detailers on this forum that can achieve great results with any products.

Vegas Transplant
04-20-2013, 11:35 PM
I don't know if you have seen this thread but I think it's worth the read.

http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/auto-detailing-101/59393-maximize-your-product-s-full-potential.html?highlight=maximize+product


Thanks for the thread link :dblthumb2:






Almost forgot..... Skill level plays a part in this as well. There are great detailers on this forum that can achieve great results with any products.



+1 :dblthumb2:


These are resized from Mike's pics. Many times on the forum when product advice is asked, a heavy cut solution is usually the norm.

http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/500/mike_s_photo_1.png (http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/58541)

http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/500/mike_s_photo_3.png (http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/58542)

http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/500/mke_s_photo_2.png (http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/58543)


Mike corrected using OTC products sans machine.
Up close and personal:
http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/500/mikes_photo_5.png (http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/58544)


http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/hot-topics-frequently-asked-questions/22982-lesson-white-paint-teaches-us.html

Pureshine
04-21-2013, 12:45 AM
It really comes down to a test spot always start out with less aggressive product first.

BobbyG
04-21-2013, 06:03 AM
Been reading lots of different forums and understand from what Mike P. says that you should use the least aggressive methods necessary to accomplish your goals, correction, etc.

IIRC I read somewhere that M105 and M205 were aggressive.
I appreciate your thoughts/comments!

Feed back please

Hi Lexi,

Are you thinking of ordering these two products or simply understand the terminology and use behind them?