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ForceofWill
04-18-2013, 05:19 PM
So I have my Boss 302 and it's new but of course has the dealer installed swirls on them. The paint is in pretty good shape and from most angles you can't see swirls in it. However when I'm looking for them I can still see them in certain angles of direct sunlight.

You can't even really see them in the paint in the pictures.

I have a Rupes 21 and Meg 105/205, CCS white pads, gold pads and Meguires MF cutting pads.

My question is two part, how best would you use these to get the light swirls out with the paint condition now? I have used the 205 on a MF pad, 105 on a white pad and both seem to do the job of the light swirls. Didn't spend very long at all on the area.

I ran into a problem though of after I buffed it although the swirls were gone, I have a bunch of little faint dots in the paint and I can't seem to understand what they're from and how to remove them.

rmagnus
04-18-2013, 05:37 PM
First of all welcome to AGO.

What polisher did you use? Are the spots all over the car or just the area you polished? Have you clayed the car? I can'r believe you would need M105 on a new car but maybe if it does what you need it to do.

M205 can provide a fair amount of correction with a white pad and even more with an orage or yellow cutting pad. It polishes down and finishes nicely.

I couldn't really tell from the pics what the spots were. Is it a metal flake paint?

6supersport7
04-18-2013, 05:43 PM
Start with the least aggressive combo and do some test spots. Work your way up and when you get the results you are happy with, that's your combo. Not sure about the dots, can you get some pics?

VroomVroom
04-18-2013, 05:47 PM
Definitely curious about the dots....and I don't want to raise any pulses with guesses until we can peek at some pics.

ForceofWill
04-18-2013, 05:55 PM
Sorry guys I'll try and get some pics of them. Those were just pics where I was trying to show how faint the swirls actually were.

The dots only show up after I get done polishing, it's got to be my technique or something. Using the Rupes 21LH for the car.

Car was washed, Iron-X'd, Clayed before polish started.

ForceofWill
04-18-2013, 06:21 PM
Here's the best I could get. You can really only see the dots in direct sun at the right angle. But they're there and pretty much all over where I finished buffing.

You can only see a couple next to the light source, but they're pretty evenly around where I buffed.

Am I being too OCD? These bother me.

http://i.imgur.com/2BJSzsT.jpg?1
http://i.imgur.com/rfWkhcu.jpg?1

ForceofWill
04-18-2013, 06:23 PM
That area is really blown up, to give an idea it's the area above the Boss 302 in the stripes in this picture on the hood by the windshield. Very top right of hood pretty much.

http://i.imgur.com/jj3ckIP.jpg

Vegas Transplant
04-18-2013, 07:09 PM
Sand or rock pitting filled with polish?

http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/ask-expert-featuring-mike-phillips/48351-105-205-combo-leaving-white-like-overspray-dots.html

rmagnus
04-18-2013, 08:11 PM
I can see this bothers you so I'll give ya $10K for the car and take it off your hands.

Come on a cash offer.....:xyxthumbs:

Ok seriously I'm having trouble seeing what your seeing. The camera has a hard time picking up some of these details. Wash it wax it and drive the he!! out of it. It's a BOSS afterall.

ForceofWill
04-18-2013, 08:20 PM
I know it's a pain to catch all this on camera. They almost look like small water spot etchings to me. They're very small though. But it appears from me buffing it. The swirls go away and I get this pattern on it like a cheetah but very small. It's gotta be something I'm doing.

I circled them in these pics. You can see if you expand them to full size.

http://i.imgur.com/2BJSzsT.jpg?2
http://i.imgur.com/rfWkhcu.jpg?2

swanicyouth
04-18-2013, 08:32 PM
Can you feel the "dots" with a baggy test? If not:

I know the "dots" you are talking about. I'm no painter, so I'm not sure what they are called - even if they have a name. Similar imperfections used to be called "solvent pop", but I'm not sure if that term is even relevant or accurate anymore. I think most, if not all, paint jobs have them - how noticeable or "bad" they are being a characteristic unique to each particular car painted in each particular day. I believe they are primarily in the clear-coat..

Solvent pop not too bad:

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/04/19/ery8y9en.jpg

Horrible solvent pop:

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/04/19/y8agezum.jpg

Showing how correction exposes solvent pop:

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/04/19/ejesy7ab.jpg

My theory on the "dots" is that they become more noticeable after a polish. For one reason being, your looking at the paint under all different lights and angles. Also, the paint is cleanest and clearest at this point, so imperfections you didn't notice before stick out.

My advice? Don't worry about it. Nobody will ever notice it but you. Also, what would you do to fix it? Repaint the car? Ain't happening.

ForceofWill
04-18-2013, 08:35 PM
YES OMG YES. That blue picture is what it looks like. OMG Thank you. So it's just the crappy stock paint job? I thought maybe it was my technique making these things. Guess I'm way too OCD.

swanicyouth
04-18-2013, 08:49 PM
YES OMG YES. That blue picture is what it looks like. OMG Thank you. So it's just the crappy stock paint job? I thought maybe it was my technique making these things. Guess I'm way too OCD.

It's not a crappy paint job. It's a fact of life. It becomes more noticeable after correction. Most paint has it to some degree. Color, light, and angle can affect how noticeable it is.

What I'm saying is: its nothing you did wrong, don't worry about it.