According to the Menzerna chart...

[WRAPT C5Z06]

here on autogeek, FG400 has almost double the cut(9) of PF2500(5), yet has the same gloss level(7). That doesn't sound right to me. :dunno:

Menzerna, Menzerna Polishing Compounds Products, Menzerna FMJ, menzerna polishes, menzerna car polish, menzerna nano polish, menzerna final polish, (http://www.autogeek.net/menzerna-of-germany.html)

[Setec Astronomy]

I haven't used either of those, but FG400 is (I think) their newest product, so it's not outside the realm of imagination that it has the latest and greatest abrasives and those numbers are correct.

[Mike Phillips]

Check this out Mark...


New Menzerna FG 400 - One-Step Show Car Makeover (http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/show-n-shine/57592-new-menzerna-fg-400-one-step-show-car-makeover.html)


http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/1635/1957_Belair_Mike_Phillips_048.jpg


:)

[rms64]

I can't speak to the technical side but based on the reviews of others (thank you Smack) I tried FG400 for the first time this weekend and was thrilled with the results.

It does an excellent job of removing swirls / RIDS (I used with a LC orange pad) and imparts an amazing gloss when worked a little. For giggles, I followed with FG4500 and then used Pete's 53 as my LSP on my dark blue BMW.

Anyway, the stuff is fantastic - highly recommend!

[spiralout462]

FG 400 is definately my next compound to try.

[Audi X2]

I have been very impressed with how well FG400 finishes down on the hard clear coats I have tried it on.

[FUNX650]

Hi Mark...

I remember a couple days ago, when we were discussing DAT vs. SMAT abrasives in your thread-starter:
"RE: Finally decided to use diminishing abrasive polishes more often..."

That I brought-up the fact that Menzerna was using:
"ATT/CAOA-abrasive technology" in their FG400 offering.

So...I do believe that if one uses FG400 with the proper tools, pads, technique, etc...
[Please contact AGO forum member smack (Mike) for details]...
The levels of 'cut and gloss' that Menzerna claims for FG400 is attainable.

NOTE:
I also remember your thoughts on FG400 after you stated you
perused Todd H's write-up of his: M105 and FG400 differences.


:)

Bob

[Pureshine]

FG400 is my go to product for one steps nothing else like it. Easy to use long work time almost no dusting and a great cut with MF pads.

[Mike@DedicatedPerfection]

I can't speak to the technical side but based on the reviews of others (thank you Smack) I tried FG400 for the first time this weekend and was thrilled with the results.

It does an excellent job of removing swirls / RIDS (I used with a LC orange pad) and imparts an amazing gloss when worked a little. For giggles, I followed with FG4500 and then used Pete's 53 as my LSP on my dark blue BMW.

Anyway, the stuff is fantastic - highly recommend!

Im glad you decided to try some FG400. For me it is incredible the way this product can finish out for being such an aggressive compound. The fact that it will do so in such an easy manner is a win in my book.


Hi Mark...

I remember a couple days ago, when we were discussing DAT vs. SMAT abrasives in your thread-starter:
"RE: Finally decided to use diminishing abrasive polishes more often..."

That I brought-up the fact that Menzerna was using:
"ATT/CAOA-abrasive technology" in their FG400 offering.

So...I do believe that if one uses FG400 with the proper tools, pads, technique, etc...
[Please contact AGO forum member smack (Mike) for details]...
The levels of 'cut and gloss' that Menzerna claims for FG400 is attainable.

NOTE:
I also remember your thoughts on FG400 after you stated you
perused Todd H's write-up of his: M105 and FG400 differences.


:)

Bob

The finish that FG400 leaves in such an easy fashion makes it my go to compound for serious defect removal.

The fact of the matter is that FG400 is much easier to use than M105 is a clear winner in my book. I think M105 should be more or less limited to rotary use. This is where it shines. Put it on a D/A and you start having issues so commonly related with its use in doing so.

[WRAPT C5Z06]

Check this out guys. This is from AGO's sister forum, by Todd Helme. I really think you need to see a polishes true finish on black paint.

Meguiars M105 Ultra Cut Compound vs. Menzerna FG400 Fast Gloss Compound - Autopia Forums - Auto Detailing & Car Care Discussion Forum (http://www.autopiaforums.com/forums/detailing-product-reviews/40948-meguiars-m105-ultra-cut-compound-vs-menzerna-fg400-fast-gloss-compound.html)

[Pureshine]

Check this out guys. This is from AGO's sister forum, by Todd Helme. I really think you need to see a polishes true finish on black paint.

Meguiars M105 Ultra Cut Compound vs. Menzerna FG400 Fast Gloss Compound - Autopia Forums - Auto Detailing & Car Care Discussion Forum (http://www.autopiaforums.com/forums/detailing-product-reviews/40948-meguiars-m105-ultra-cut-compound-vs-menzerna-fg400-fast-gloss-compound.html)

He did not us MF pads with the FG400 Which makes a difference. I would still use FG400 over 105 95% of the time.

[WRAPT C5Z06]

He did not us MF pads with the FG400 Which makes a difference. I would still use FG400 over 105 95% of the time.
Yes he did, and got less than desired results. Look at the thread again. I trust Todd 150%!!

[FUNX650]

Check this out guys. This is from AGO's sister forum, by Todd Helme. I really think you need to see a polishes true finish on black paint.

Meguiars M105 Ultra Cut Compound vs. Menzerna FG400 Fast Gloss Compound - Autopia Forums - Auto Detailing & Car Care Discussion Forum (http://www.autopiaforums.com/forums/detailing-product-reviews/40948-meguiars-m105-ultra-cut-compound-vs-menzerna-fg400-fast-gloss-compound.html)
Thanks for this link Mark.

Do you feel this particular write-up of Todd Helme's addresses and/or answers your Menzerna FG400's:
"cut/gloss-doubts"...in your below listed OP...in this particular thread-starter of yours?

here on autogeek, FG400 has almost double the cut(9) of PF2500(5), yet has the same gloss level(7).
That doesn't sound right to me. :dunno:


Thanks.

:)

Bob

[Mike@DedicatedPerfection]

I would still use FG400 over 105 95% of the time.

Same here. No where near the headache and hassle of M105.

[Pureshine]

Yes he did, and got less than desired results. Look at the thread again. I trust Todd 150%!!

I use it all the time with great results the problem is ever paint is not the same.