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swanicyouth
04-06-2013, 10:40 AM
Found a lone defect on my car. God only knows how it got there:

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/04/06/uhanase9.jpg

Since the car is kept as close to defect free as possible, I decided to spot correct it. However, after I ended up polishing the whole hood and trunk just because I had the machine out. A 3" pad is the only thing that fits on this area:

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/04/06/yjy2ety3.jpg

Now, I try and use as little masking tape as possible. I don't tape up anything unless I absolutely have to. Why? Because DAs usually don't spin fast enough to damage anything and I'm convinced the residue tape leaves behind (glue) can mar paint (at least black paint) when you try to wipe it off. It's easier for me just to control and be careful with the machine then to get my towels all gummed up with tape glue boogies.

Went at it with tried and true WG TSR 3.0 on my GG6 (speed 5) on a 3" LC HT tangerine pad:

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/04/06/eda9uhu6.jpg

This vehicle has several areas that are only correctable with 3" or 4" pads:

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/04/06/jydyse8y.jpg

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/04/06/uqetupet.jpg

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/04/06/azy6u3a2.jpg

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/04/06/te9ugaqa.jpg

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/04/06/zazuzeza.jpg

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/04/06/e7u8u3a2.jpg

Without 3" (or sometimes 4") pads, there really is no way to effectively polish these areas. Using tape and polishing over it to the next panel is just not good. Tape peels up, adhesive attracts dirt, and you pad is now polishing dirt. Also, you have to get the adhesive off the paint somehow: more rubbing. It may be ok on lighter colors where stuff is tough to notice, but on black (and if your as picky as I am) it's not good.

After WG TSR:

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/04/06/evy4ety9.jpg

Wipe down with Eraser:

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/04/06/myzeduse.jpg

Having Eraser is mandatory IMHO. It's much better than IPA, as it does have some lube. It may seem costly, but you don't use much. This bottle I bought about a year ago:

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/04/06/upeqasut.jpg

Inspection, its gone:

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/04/06/u9ysa2e5.jpg

When removing an isolated defect, I always mark where the defect is somehow before polishing. The leading edge of the towel on the roof is strait up from where it started. This is because I want to inspect EXACTLY where it was, not where I think it may have been.

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/04/06/4emeqevu.jpg

Now its gone, I'm going to final polish with Menzerna SF4500 on a LC HT 3" crimson pad. Enough to prime:

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/04/06/a7ury3ep.jpg

After:

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/04/06/ahe2eta4.jpg

Polish removed:

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/04/06/aru2aqyd.jpg

Since I knew the defect was gone, I'm just looking at gloss, etc... WG TSR 3.0 finishes down so well for me, its really hard to tell any difference between that and a final polish.

After that, I decided to hit the whole trunk and hood as well using the same process since I had the machine out. There was some very fine scratches that could only be seen in the sun. I thought Prima Amigo would remove them or cover them up (last month), but it did neither. Maybe this paint is too hard.

Then I applied some PB Black Hole using a 4" LC Cool Wave blue pad. I always like to use some type of product with an acrylic glaze as a base. Not to hide any defects (it doesn't "hide" much to me anyway), but it seems to boost the gloss a bit. Some products that glaze I use are: PB BH, Wet Glaze 2.0, Prima Amigo (seems exactly the same as PB BH, just with fine abrasives), BF Gloss Enhancing Polish, or WG Paintwork Polish Enhancer. Since the paint was polished, it didn't need any "cleaning", so I went with PB BH.

Primed and ready to go:

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/04/06/uqytu5et.jpg

After BH:

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/04/06/y8ary6un.jpg

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/04/06/uzyzanu5.jpg

Looks pretty good and glossy. I repeated on the hood and followed up with WG DGPS, WG DG Liquid Seal, then Souverän. Adding a layer of WG DG Liquid Seal also seems to boost the gloss a bit to me.

Souverän looks great. I applied it to the whole car. It's very glossy and shiny. Very easy to apply. Probably the best looking wax I've tried. It does have some shortcomings, but looks ain't one of them:

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/04/06/ujamejeg.jpg

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/04/06/yzu6ytus.jpg

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/04/06/esy5e9y2.jpg

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/04/06/te8e6yvu.jpg

Finally, you get to see the whole car in my special outdoor photo studio (Costco's parking lot):

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/04/06/ede4e8as.jpg

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/04/06/uhypa6yb.jpg

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/04/06/y9asy2a9.jpg

I'm really happy how this mini spruce up turned out. Coincidently, it was done with a lot of AG house products WG TSR, WG DGPS, WG DGLS, some Cobra Towels, & Pinnacle Souverän. All are top notch products.

I have shelves full of other stuff:

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/04/06/2ysepypa.jpg

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/04/06/du2ejaqe.jpg

But I usually reach for the AG house brands.

Thanks for looking!

Sicoupe
04-06-2013, 10:45 AM
Great job! Sweet car too:)

Mike@DedicatedPerfection
04-06-2013, 10:45 AM
Eraser FTW!

Very well done write up and pictures. That M roadster looks perfect. I love it.

cartman57
04-06-2013, 10:54 AM
Roadster looks beautiful!!!!
Different size pads are a necessity.

Was that between the trunk lid and top?

swanicyouth
04-06-2013, 11:18 AM
Eraser FTW!

Very well done write up and pictures. That M roadster looks perfect. I love it.

Thanks. The funny thing is, about 8 years ago I had a silver E85 Z4. I wanted to "polish" it. I bought my first PC and 7" pads. Somehow I polished the whole car with 7" pads. Not sure how I did that.

I bought Menz IP, their old Final Polish II, and their FT Glaze. I went through all the steps over a few days, but the swirls were still there. Then I became convinced my PC was "defective" because it couldn't spin 7" pads well.

So, I put it all away for like 5 years. Then I bought this black car 2.5 years ago and that what got me back into detailing. As, I couldn't stand the swirls and scratches on a black car.


Roadster looks beautiful!!!!
Different size pads are a necessity.

Was that between the trunk lid and top?


Yes. This area where the blue, green, and grey towels are just touching in this old pic (top was down):

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/04/07/atyseba7.jpg

ihaveacamaro
04-06-2013, 12:09 PM
awesome job buddy! I always like reading your write ups :)

Evan.J
04-06-2013, 12:47 PM
Nice write up and save. Car looks good! My mom has one and when they are clean they look amazing!

Mike@DedicatedPerfection
04-06-2013, 01:02 PM
Glad you got back into it Swanic. It is a real pleasure to read your write-ups and experiences.

I cant stand driving around a neglected black BMW either. Its against my religion so to speak.

sproketser
05-21-2013, 05:20 AM
Just saw that thread from a link from other thread , great writeup mate !

Instructional thread to me .

BobbyG
05-21-2013, 05:59 AM
Nice writeup and photos! :props:

And car of course! :dblthumb2:

rms64
05-21-2013, 06:14 AM
Great writeup and agree 3" pads are very useful if not essential. Also love that eraser stuff - works great and smells good too! Great job!

WRXINXS
05-21-2013, 07:58 AM
BMW paint is pretty hard right? I assume that is why you needed a compound to remove that defect. On my black Subaru paint M205 and white pad would have destroyed that mark!

VAS
05-21-2013, 08:36 AM
I'm in the market for a new 3" orbital and rotary buffer. These are also essential for head light restoration.

swanicyouth
09-01-2014, 06:26 PM
Bump for TSR not filling

Tato
09-01-2014, 09:16 PM
Thank you for bumping this thread, I haven't seen the date before reading the full review, and enjoyed like it was fresh new (for me it was!).

Pleasure to read your threads, I plentiful agree with your taping comments and with the importance you gave to different sized pads.

Not to say your car looks amazing!

Have a nice day.