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Dr_Pain
03-28-2013, 06:34 PM
I knew the time would come when I could not find an excuse to not detail boat, so here is my attempt at transitioning from automotive to boats.

One of my very good friend approached me about detailing his 29 ft Mako. The boat was refurbished over the last year and he is ready to put it in the capable hands of his buddy to beautify.

The deck was refinished using Awlgrip paint (not familiar with the product). The hull was reburbed by a fiberglass guy about a year ago, so compounded and polished but nothing since. His main eyesore is the aluminum surrounding the main cabin and the flybridge. He is unsure if it is anodized, coated etc... Lastly he wants the vinyl (seats, cushion, etc...) cleaned and protected.

I would like to ask for your expertise. :dblthumb2:

P.S. I did see the Marine 31 products on sale so I thought it would be a great opportunity to try them?!?

Please share your suggestions even if it does not the above mentioned.

Truly appreciative,

Claude

dcgocd
03-28-2013, 07:46 PM
Awlgrip is a paint very similiar to Imron, It is a hard paint but you should be able to work on it using any automotive type polishes or waxes but I would not use the Marine polishes on it.

If the sides are gelcoat,they can be polished using Marine polish which has more oils to keep it from drying out while working it. For protection you can use automotive wax or marine wax. I personally like Meguirs Flagship Marine which comes as a cleaner wax or you can buy just the straight wax with no cleaning abilities.

As far as the aluminum, if its bare aluminum,a good aluminum polish should work,but if its anodized,it would harm the surface but someone else should chime in here that has more experience with anodized.

Dr_Pain
03-28-2013, 07:54 PM
Thanks for the input! Welcoming more opinions. I do like the idea of using automotive products since I do have my fair share of those.

I haven't seen the boat yet. I guess it will become clear once I see it (at least for the aluminum)

Jomax
03-28-2013, 08:18 PM
All depends on the condition, I buff my fiberglass trailer(kinda the same) so I'll help any way I can. For the interior vinyl I would use 303 protectant for the vinyl.

For the gel coat, Meguiars makes some good products. I've used them in the past with good results. Only thing I hate is the amount of oil megs put in. It kinda makes the surface look better than it is. Other than that can't complain.

You could get away with a DA, but I highly recommend a rotary. Just makes life easier. If you want perfection you could use the DA for the polishing step and a rotary for the compounding step.

I will say, working on gelcoat is a ton harder than cars or trucks. Once you do one , cars and trucks seem like cake walk. At least it does for me.


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Alek@DeepClean
03-28-2013, 09:20 PM
For any kind of gelcoat on boats: skip the DA and head straight for a rotary+wool.

Mike Philips has a great video on detailing boats, its like an hour long. He goes over the process and products he uses on just about every surface on that thing. I'll see if I can't find it for you

EDIT: Here it is:
How to Detail Your Boat - Removing Oxidation - Maintaining Sunbrella and Isinglass - YouTube
One thing to keep in mind is that he is dealing with a couple who knows nothing about detailing, specifically machine polishing. He gives them DA's because they're new, but for gelcoat you really want to go with a rotary(which he will tell you himself, if I recall correctly).

Dr_Pain
03-29-2013, 10:05 PM
Since the Marine 31 products are on sale, any recommendation on those?

I did watch Mike's vids and feel a little better about taking on the job. Just want product recommendation, especially for aluminum

Jomax
03-29-2013, 11:15 PM
Since the Marine 31 products are on sale, any recommendation on those?

I did watch Mike's vids and feel a little better about taking on the job. Just want product recommendation, especially for aluminum

Never heard of them, but for aluminum, any metal polish will do honestly.




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dipolley
03-30-2013, 12:46 AM
Only thing I can add is make sure it isn't in the water. It can be very difficult when it is. :-)

Nick McKees37
03-30-2013, 08:37 AM
I knew the time would come when I could not find an excuse to not detail boat, so here is my attempt at transitioning from automotive to boats.

One of my very good friend approached me about detailing his 29 ft Mako. The boat was refurbished over the last year and he is ready to put it in the capable hands of his buddy to beautify.

Have no fear - Marine 31 is here! :righton:


The deck was refinished using Awlgrip paint (not familiar with the product).

You'll want to avoid the heavier cut compounds and polishes on this type of paint, but you can use Marine 31 All-In-One Gel Coat Polish & Wax. This will lightly polish the paint while leaving down a durable, high-gloss layer of wax protection.


The hull was reburbed by a fiberglass guy about a year ago, so compounded and polished but nothing since.

If the hull is in relatively good shape, I would use Marine 31 Gel Coat Final Step Polish followed by Marine 31 Gel Coat Carnauba Wax + Sealant. This will remove any light oxidation, surface staining and yellowing while feeding the gel coat essential oils. Carnauba Wax + Sealant will lock in the shine while providing durable protection.


His main eyesore is the aluminum surrounding the main cabin and the flybridge. He is unsure if it is anodized, coated etc...

Most likely it is aluminum. If it is aluminum, you can use Marine 31 Finish Cut Metal Restoring Polish on a WOOL pad (rotary or DA) to restore the shine and luster. Protect the finish and lock in the shine with Marine 31 Gel Coat Carnauba Wax + Sealant.


Lastly he wants the vinyl (seats, cushion, etc...) cleaned and protected.

If the vinyl surfaces aren't too dirty, you can take the simple approach and use Marine 31 Vinyl Cleaner & Conditioner. This product is formulated to both clean and protect vinyl surfaces. It is formulated with Ciba Tinuvin UV inhibitors, which provide the best UV protection money can buy.

If the vinyl surfaces are heavily soiled, I would recommend using Marine 31 Port to Starboard All Purpose Cleaner first. You can use this APC to clean virtually anything and because it's concentrated, you can dilute it accordingly for each surface. Follow up with Marine 31 Vinyl Cleaner & Conditioner to protect the finish.


I would like to ask for your expertise. :dblthumb2:

P.S. I did see the Marine 31 products on sale so I thought it would be a great opportunity to try them?!?

Please share your suggestions even if it does not the above mentioned.

Truly appreciative,

Claude

Marine 31 Waxes, Cleaners & Polishes were developed right here in South Florida and we spent A LOT of time fine-tuning each product to ensure they were exceptionally easy to use, even in direct sunlight. We also spent a lot of time talking to local marinas and avid boating enthusiasts to see what THEY would like to see in a marine care product. The universal response was "eco-friendly" and "easy to use" and we're proud to say that each and every Marine 31 product is harbor-safe, eco-friendly and VERY easy to use.

If you want to take the SIMPLE approach to boat care, Marine 31 Waxes, Cleaners & Polishes is the way to go. :props:

Recommended products:

Marine 31 All-In-One Gel Coat Polish & Wax (http://www.autogeek.net/marine-31-polish-and-wax.html)
Marine 31 Port to Starboard All Purpose Cleaner (http://www.autogeek.net/marine-31-all-purpose-cleaner.html)
Marine 31 Gel Coat Carnauba Wax + Sealant (http://www.autogeek.net/marine-31-carnauba-sealant-wax.html)
Marine 31 Gel Coat Final Step Polish (http://www.autogeek.net/marine-31-final-polish.html)
Marine 31 Finish Cut Metal Restoring Polish (http://www.autogeek.net/marine-31-boat-metal-polish.html)
Marine 31 Vinyl Cleaner & Conditioner (http://www.autogeek.net/marine-31-vinyl-cleaner-conditioner.html)

And yes, the complete line is on sale through the weekend. :)

Marine 31 - Waxes, Cleaners & Polishes (http://www.autogeek.net/marine-31-boat-care.html)

Jomax
03-30-2013, 09:52 AM
Nick never fails to amaze! Seems like a great product!


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Sfoster
04-06-2013, 01:26 PM
Hey what should I charge to detail a 28' walk around omc fishing boat?

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master detailer
04-06-2013, 02:40 PM
I get 25 a ft on real bad boat I get 30 hr wet sanding is more. ps dont wet sand allgrip to hard . I use shela shine on alum.Just spray on clean rag and wipe on. this is the best stuff you will ever use.

Sfoster
04-07-2013, 07:56 AM
What would you recommend for removing black streaks of a pontoon boat that has a vinyl decal wrapped around it? Black streak remover wont do anything, every year I have to compound it off

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Nick McKees37
04-08-2013, 01:41 PM
What would you recommend for removing black streaks of a pontoon boat that has a vinyl decal wrapped around it? Black streak remover wont do anything, every year I have to compound it off

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The trick with black streaks is to remove them as soon as possible. Marine 31 Port to Starboard All Purpose Cleaner (http://www.autogeek.net/marine-31-all-purpose-cleaner.html) works exceptionally well for removing black streaks.

Sfoster
04-08-2013, 07:22 PM
I'll think about getting some but I have tried 4 other black streak remover with no luck at all

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