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MrOneEyedBoh
03-05-2013, 07:22 PM
I'm going to set my truck for the first time. What I'm wondering is what should I tape off? Emblems, rubber molding around Windows, truck bed rails?

I'm going to be washing, claying, paint correcting via Megs MF DA kit and then waxing with Collinite 845. I would apply the tape after claying and then remove it before waxing? And remove adhesive if any left behind by iso alcohol? I have 70% iso here now... I will also be using 3m green 233+ tape.

Mike@DedicatedPerfection
03-05-2013, 07:51 PM
You got it. The more you tape off the better off you are. It is always a paint to remove dried on polish from rubber molding.

Cut your Alcohol down to IPA mixture and you will be fine.

I use 233+ as well.

psynx
03-05-2013, 07:58 PM
moldings, emblems, antennas, seals, headlight, taillights. if you can get some kind of vinyl and rubber cleaner like megs #40 instead of using alcohol. other detailers like to use Alcohol but i just get worried that it'll dry the rubber pre maturely in the long run

rmagnus
03-05-2013, 08:05 PM
You can remove the tape before using Col 845 beause it will not turn rubber moldings white. Most would untape after waxing this way no wax gets forced under moldings or in seems. Since you're using a DA if you work your product down a little before crossing over a body seem you can cut down on taping. Even running a DA over emblems isn't the end of the world, not great technique but you're not going to damage anything.

Taping is more important with a rotary buffer because it tend to sling product more than a DA not to mention plastic parts don't always play nice with RB's.

If detailing clients cars tape anything you feel might get damaged to be on the safe side.

MrOneEyedBoh
03-05-2013, 10:15 PM
How come you have to tape seams? I thought you didn't have to worry about seams since in the end its paint, not rubber or plastic?

CM8 6MT
03-05-2013, 10:22 PM
How come you have to tape seams? I thought you didn't have to worry about seams since in the end its paint, not rubber or plastic?

Taping seams and high spots is usually a practise used when using a rotary buffer. Paint is usually thinner in these areas. Although not required when using a DA, you want to be really careful not to spend too much time ontop or near them. When in doubt, tape.

Whats the cost effectiveness?

Tape: $4-5 dollars for good tape.
Repainting a panel: $300-400+

You decide.

Andr3wilson
03-05-2013, 10:27 PM
My 2 cents

1. Get 1.5 to 2 inch wide 3M Blue Tape. The wider the easier IMO

2. You dont need to tape over polished aluminum or chrome. Polishing over it will also polish the metal.

MrOneEyedBoh
03-05-2013, 10:31 PM
Okay so dumb question.. how do you take seams? I searched first but couldn't find much hence my thread... And what if I need to buff/ remove swirls on my hood that has a hump? If its taped I can't get go it..

MrOneEyedBoh
03-05-2013, 11:19 PM
Two more things. My roof on the f250 is corrugated ( has three deep lines in it. ) I'lL be using a DA with meguiars MF correction kit. Should I just corrdct the roof by hand or use the DA but tape off the edges? I can. Use thin vinyl tape for the hood edges on the side of the hood right? Lastly you guys take off door seams just so compound won't get stuck right? Or is it so you Wont wear thru the paint there too?

Pureshine
03-05-2013, 11:44 PM
Here is a photo.
http://i1148.photobucket.com/albums/o580/kicku9/2009%20Denali/DSC_0249.jpg

Cincy Colorado
03-06-2013, 12:33 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WKFdlAFgio4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SMsNg1iCoTU

Might help out with things.

Mike Phillips
03-06-2013, 07:07 AM
I'm going to set my truck for the first time.

What I'm wondering is what should I tape off?

Emblems, rubber molding around Windows, truck bed rails?




Here's my guideline... I tape off anything I don't want to detail later...


"Polishing paint is polishing paint, detailing is getting the wax out of the cracks" (http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/tricks-tips-techniques/22285-polishing-paint-polishing-paint-detailing-getting-wax-out-cracks.html)


Also, anything you don't want to risk staining... from my experience, once black plastic trim is creamed over with some type of compound, polish or wax you can never remove 100% of the whitish stain left behind, this means for the rest of the time you own the car you'll be constantly trying to mask the stain with some type of dressing or dye.


:)

Mike Phillips
03-06-2013, 07:08 AM
I have a few articles on this topic in my artilce list and also in my how-to books...




Taping-off and Covering Up

How to cover and protect a convertible top before machine buffing (http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/how-articles/48328-how-cover-protect-convertible-top-before-machine-buffing.html)

The Beach Towel Tip (http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/tricks-tips-techniques/30894-beach-towel-tip.html)

The Soft Flannel Bed Sheet Tip (http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/tricks-tips-techniques/34828-soft-flannel-bed-sheet-tip.html)

Tips on Taping Off Thin Paint and Chipped Paint (http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/tricks-tips-techniques/31818-tips-taping-off-thin-paint-chipped-paint.html)

Tape it off and avoid a lifetime of ugly... (http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/tricks-tips-techniques/29951-tape-off-avoid-lifetime-ugly.html)

Best Practice - Avoid buffing on top of body lines and edges (http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/rough-draft/20168-best-practice-avoid-buffing-top-body-lines-edges.html)


:xyxthumbs:

Mike Phillips
03-06-2013, 07:09 AM
And here's a brand new article on this topic...

The difference between Meguiar's and 3M Masking Tapes? (http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/hot-topics-frequently-asked-questions/61047-difference-between-meguiar-s-3m-masking-tapes.html)



:)

MCA2011
03-06-2013, 08:36 AM
You can remove the tape before using Col 845 beause it will not turn rubber moldings white.

I found that Collinite does not stain plastics or vinyl and using it as a WOWO puts a great finish down on all black plastics. I don't tape at all with 845.

The only thing I have found is that I get a lot of static on my plastic rocker panels and the plastics will attract dust. So, I simply wipe down with some quik detailer to neutralize the charge